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Lasa Kon · Posts: 245

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Well, In reality I'm getting one either way, I just need some games to play on it. Meteos and what else?

BalbanesBeoulve · Posts: 2126

GBA games.

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

i've had a ds since launch, and meteos is it, so far.

but, meteos.

BalbanesBeoulve · Posts: 2126

And there's some kirby game. Something about rainbows. And i don't mean the kind you find in 'Frisco. or do i?

Lasa Kon · Posts: 245

I've heard good things about Canvas Curse, All lies and slander I presume.

aderack · Posts: 5018

Yes. But wait until an interesting color is released.

As for games worth getting a DS for -- there are tons. Most just aren't quite out yet.

Currently-available stuff includes Kirby, Meteos and maybe that Nanostray game.

Upcoming includes Lost In Blue, Another Code, that Sonic game, Phoneix Wright, Dawn of Sorrow, Trauma Unit, Katamari, and a whole bunch of stuff I'm forgetting offhand.

BalbanesBeoulve · Posts: 2126

Advance Wars, Mario and Luigi 2, New 2d Super Mario, Mario Kart DS Online, Animal Crossing Online, Nintendogs.

Judge Ito · Posts: 284

Kirby makes it feel like 1985 again (in the best way possible, and if the NES is where you first started). New control scheme, new frustrations as you slowly learn how to rub and touch the controls to perform to your liking.

If Nanostray is anything like Iridion II, then there's another good buy.

Lasa Kon · Posts: 245

Alright, Alright. Point taken, but can I pay for over priced Movies that I may or may not own already and watch them on my DS?

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

and can you get them without any bonus features, pretty please?

aderack · Posts: 5018

Yeah, the DS in general makes me feel like I did when the NES was new and things like Clu-Clu land and Gyromite were blowing my mind.

I liked what I played of Nanostray at E3. I'm probably going to interview Shin'en, too. When I get to it.

Toups can talk about it, I'm sure.

WarpZone · Posts: 396

Meteos and Kirby definitely provide the strongest incentive yet for me to get a DS. I should probably just break down and buy one later this year, plus then I could get Gunstar and my own copy of Astro Boy.

Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

You can even get a fruity color if you import one. I think they have pink or graphite black for people like me who are insecure about their sexuality.

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

it hurts me inside that i did not wait for a black ds. it would go so perfectly with my black sp, gamecube, hori controller, and wardrobe.

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

aderack wrote:

Toups can talk about it, I'm sure.

Nanostray, you mean?

I... played it for maybe 30 seconds.

I can talk about how terrible Mario 64 DS is. If you wind up with it, all right; but don't pay any money for it.

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

Mister Toups wrote:

[I can talk about how terrible Mario 64 DS is.

less talk, more talk.

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

I'm kind of finishing Killer 7 right now. Give me a few minutes.

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

Right, so. Mario DS.

Why was this chosen as a launch title? As the launch title, really. People have told me that it was a showcase title, which makes sense, I guess, except that Nintendo was never trying to impress anyone with the DS's graphical horsepower -- the selling point of the DS is the touch screen and new types of interface.

And the thing with Mario DS is -- it will make you hate the touch screen. Unless you're some big-handed, long-thumbed freak like Shaper, there's no real practical way to play the game. It will make you wish you had an honest to God analog stick under your thumb -- hell, even that nub on the PSP would be better. You can find ways to play it, mind you, but it never begans to feel natural. And my wrist started to get sore after a week of playing it. Also, masturbation joke.

It perplexes me. Because the game seems really eager to teach you to use the touch screen, but does it in really backwards ways. Whenever you enter a painting, you can't press A like you usually would do to start the level; you have to touch the bottom screen. I guess just so that you are, you know, touching something, and you get used to the idea of touching the screen. But then there are menus where you'd expect to touch the screen but you need to use the directional pad instead. And if you choose to play the game with the touch screen (which you will, because it just flat out doesn't work with digital controls), you just start to get frustrated with how fickle the touch screen can be.

Every person I've known (save on these forums) who has bought a DS, bought it with Mario and returned it because they didn't like the interface and the PSP had better graphics. It just seems like a maneuver that backfired badly, is all.

On a positive note, it kind of demonstrates that 3D gaming doesn't really work well on the system, so maybe it will encourage developers to stick with 2D.

Moose · Posts: 6

Zookeeper!

It's horrendously addictive, and probably quite cheap wherever you are in the world.

quagmire · Posts: 99

You should totally get a DS,. they're fantastic! Also, I don't agree with Toups' account of Mario 64. I didn't experience any frustration control-wise (I used the D-pad + face buttons) buuut then again I've never played the game with an analogue thumbstick. So.

Also, you can check out my 1UP blog which I've just updated with a bunch of info about the DS, game impressions/links to decent reviews, hardware updates, rumours, so on. http://people.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5634265

StorminNorman · Posts: 70

Another Code: Two Memories is reason alone to buy a DS. It's a little short, but great fun, and the absolute perfect game to introduce you to what the DS is really trying to be.

It also has a great story, and some innovative, if not always taxing, puzzles.

Ashleigh should be the DS's mascot.

I've shown AC to my mother, and couldn't get the DS back off her for half an hour. She wants me to loan it to her so she can play it. She doesn't like games, normally.

kokomo · Posts: 50

Mister Toups wrote:

Right, so. Mario DS.

But Mario is like the postman, in that he always delivers!

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

StorminNorman wrote:

Ashleigh should be the DS's mascot.

she practically is!

StorminNorman · Posts: 70

Yeah, the incorporation of a DS-analog in the game is what made me make that kind of link. I do hope she becomes a sort-of mascot for the system, as she'd be quite different to other system/developer mascots out there.

winkerwanker · Posts: 2414

Yes Another Code is all that, at least for the 5 hours play time I got from it.

Buy a DS so you can never return to your washed out, dull, more comfortable SP.

Shapermc · Posts: 2450

Feel the Magic
Kirby's Canvas Curse
Meteos

This is the current list of games that should keep you entertained and show off what the DS is as a system.

Feel the Magic is what Wario Ware Touched! can not be. If you are interested in Wario Ware title I recommend that you stick to the GBA brethren. Kirby is possibly the most fun game of the year. I have beat it and unlocked most things now. It is great for both short and long play times. Meteos is... I don't know. I think it is mandatory. I can't say it is overly fantastic, but I keep playing it. It is an excellent way to pass 5 to 15 minutes, but I really don't know if I like it or not. I feel... compelled to play it.

Lasa Kon · Posts: 245

It's offical, I'm buying a DS this weekend, even though I'm sure everyone who works at the local EB games will try to talk me into buying a PSP and remind me how Nintendo is the "GAYZORZ!!". Is Another Code worth importing or should I just you know... wait for the US release?

Shapermc · Posts: 2450

The manager at my EB loves his DS and does not like the PSP, so you may get lucky.

ryan · Posts: 297

Konami's Lost in Blue is the reason I'm getting one. The mini games are finally tweaked so things need to be done for a reason. Plus, you cook with the DS.. that's pretty awesome.

StorminNorman · Posts: 70

Lasa Kon wrote:

Is Another Code worth importing or should I just you know... wait for the US release?

Given that it's out here in Australia, it should already be out on the US. Go and ask for at your favourite video game retailer.

It seems to have got a very limited release here, though, as I've only seen one other copy of it on shelves since I bought it. I don't know if this is the case in the US, though.

winkerwanker · Posts: 2414

No this time round PAL land got a game before America.

Legal Step · Posts: 1030

of course, don't want a handheld system that companies still make games for. Sure the PSP is snazzy but will die by next year. I believe the haxors will keep it alive for a while longer.

Shapermc · Posts: 2450

winkerwanker wrote:

No this time round PAL land got a game before America.

PAL gets Michigan too

surume · Posts: 8

I really dig my DS. All the aforementioned games are worth getting. Also, include the JP version of Mr Driller (cuz its got 1 card multiplay).

That said, I know some people don't agree with this, but the DS has some serious ergonomic issues. It's fine to play it at your desk or in your lap, but when open, it's so thin in depth that it won't fit in your palm like a controller, but the button placement is set-up like a controller. You end up putting unnecessary strain on your fingers rather than carrying the weight in your palms. Not to mention the four face buttons are way too close to the side.

Here's hoping Ninty puts out a DS SP next year.

James · Posts: 1735

This is how you DS:

Must-have:
Wario Ware Touched!
Goemon DS (import this with the quickness)
Yoshi's Touch and Go

Likeable:
Mario 64 DS (fuck all the haters)

Good but not worth retail price:
Another Code
Feel the Magic

Stuff friends have told me is good:
Kirby Canvas Curse

Upcoming shit I want:
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Advance Wars Dual Strike

surume · Posts: 8

Goemon's sposed to be great, but buried beneath a huge amount of JP text.

http://ntsc-uk.domino.org/showthread.php?t=43772

Gai-jin B-ware

James · Posts: 1735

I beat it without knowing a word of Japanese - I had to check some forums for help now and again, but it was great fun and the Impact stages are worth it.

DonMarco · Posts: 565

Mister Toups wrote:

I can talk about how terrible Mario 64 DS is. If you wind up with it, all right; but don't pay any money for it.

Well, it was a port of a crappy game. What did you expect?

James · Posts: 1735

Basically what I'm trying to say is don't trust NTSC-uk on anything

surume · Posts: 8

James wrote:

I beat it without knowing a word of Japanese - I had to check some forums for help now and again, but it was great fun and the Impact stages are worth it.

Good to know...now i want one.
Just ordered Nanostray. Have no idea if/when I'll actually get it. Release weirdness on that one.

special blend · Posts: 154

Mister Toups wrote:

I can talk about how terrible Mario 64 DS is. If you wind up with it, all right; but don't pay any money for it.

It's gonna be a pack-in soon, which is either good or bad depending on how you look at things.

dark steve · Posts: 3002

It's already free with the system (not packed in) when you buy it at Wal Mart.

piyo · Posts: 14

Why play games when you can have non-gaming experiences with your DS?

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piyo

Legal Step · Posts: 1030

piyo I want to have your baby.

EndlessChris · Posts: 431

Can I rant? Let me rant.

The DS fucking sucks.

I got one at launch, thinking "Well hey, it'll be like having one of those GBASPs I never got, and I'm sure some awesome DS games will be out soon.

I can't even comprehend that the DS has been out for almost an entire year. It baffles me that there's still not one fucking game out there I really, really want. I have like Puyo Pop Fever and Meteos is ooming in the mail, but I mean... how hard would it have been to get Advance Wars out for launch? Its fucking Advance Wars, you know they havent changed the graphics or the layout at all. Just design some maps over a weekend and you have a game.

(Did you know the DS can't even run a good amount of GBA games without freezing? Good luck playing Metal Slug Advance or Megaman Battle Network 4 - sure glad I sold my GBA so I could get the DS.)

But no, you ported Super Mario 64. I laughed when I found this out. My biggest pet peeve with the GBA was the ports. They took Super Mario All-Stars, broke it down into five parts and sold them each for $30 apiece. All the while I said "Nintendo, you have fucking made possibly the greatest piece of 2D hardware ever, for the love of god make a new Mario game." But no, they ported, ported games I've already played to death and tacked the Mario Bros. arcade game on like it made it worthwhile. And lo and behold, here comes Nintendo, talking about how they're totally going to shake shit up with their awesome new system. And they port Mario... again. People have asked me why I give Nintendo shit for porting SM64 when I'm all excited about the PSP ports of like Tales of Eternia and Megaman Legends. Because, those are games that I want to play again - that would be fun on the go. Games that weren't huge sellers and it'll be nice to see them get another chance on the PSP. But Mario? Fucking Mario? I've played Mario. We've all played Mario. Yeah you fixed the graphics and added some minigames - many of which arent even games (Yoshi's "she loves me not" simulator is a real step forward in minigame design) - but its still the same fucking game with worst controls.

I don't know, maybe I'm just angry. Angry because the DS seems like the shoddiest product I've ever purchased. The paint is chipping off, the right D Pad doesn't work right anymore (I have to send it to Nintendo) but worst of all, you know how they tell you to use that thumb thingy to control games? What they don't tell you is that thing wears down easy, and starts scratching the hell out of your screen after a week. I can feel the screen scratching while I play, it's the most disgusting feeling ever.

If you're going to make a touch screen at least send me a screen protector with the system - because I swear it took 6 months before I could even find a DS screen protector in a store. Go get a PDA one and cut it down they said - yeah, I could barely get my PSP one on without trapping dirt under it, last thing I need are some extra steps to fuck up.

Now, the PSPs game library sucks right now as well, but at least the PSP can play movies and music and show me porn I've loaded onto my gigabite memory stick. Thats worth my $350 right there - before we even get to the goddamn emulators. I like my PSP.

I mean who knows, there's a lot of great DS games on the way. Castlevania, Mario Kart, Lost in Blue, etc. But the DS still feels like a slap in the face. That Metroid demo makes me want to cry at how bad it is (Chain scoring in an FPS? WTF) and now that Nintendo makes a 3D handheld they're finally making the 2D Mario I wanted?

That's funny...

Heh

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pillowking · Posts: 223

I'm trying to find a way to kick up money to purchase a DS and Kirby or Meteos- but damn I still want to keep my PS2 :P

pillowking · Posts: 223

EndlessChris wrote:

Now, the PSPs game library sucks right now as well, but at least the PSP can play movies and music and show me porn I've loaded onto my gigabite memory stick. Thats worth my $350 right there - before we even get to the goddamn emulators. I like my PSP.

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Legal Step · Posts: 1030

Endless Chris how do you really feel? and are you a porn bot?

Toups Post

James · Posts: 1735

Hey I have something that can play emulators and mp3s and let me look at porn -

IT'S CALLED A FUCKING PC

Sucks that your DS was defective - mine plays GBA like a dream, the buttons all work ok and the screen is still nice. If you scratch the screen or wear down the thumbslide (???) you're pressing way too hard.

BalbanesBeoulve · Posts: 2126

He does not know his own strength!