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oneEIGHTkevin · Posts: 465

the vinculum gate wrote:

i'm a psych major, fuck you all!

entry level is 201 here, by the way

WHICH I HAVE MY FIRST DAY OF TOMORROW!

If you're planning to go anywhere in that field be sure you keep a 4.0 for grad school.

Dakravel · Posts: 125

Rud13 wrote:

I'm a philosophy major too, So!

What kinda philosophy?

the vinculum gate wrote:

waste of 4 years

A psych major criticizing a journalism major? This is..., a weird turn of events.

Rud13 · Posts: 3277

My school seems to offer only one flavor.

LegatoB · Posts: 1546

I'm still just going to Valencia Community College here in hotter-than-Hell Central Florida, as I understand it will be cheaper and easier to get some of the required, transferrable stuff done now, then go off to a 4-year afterward. Hopefully sooner than later - as much as I enjoy freeloading at home, I'd like to get the hell out of this area (this STATE if I can manage it) because really I'm just plain sick of it. Florida is dull, doubly so if you live there for 18 years and only leave it twice.

I think I'm still majoring in something related to programming, at the moment, but as I understand it, career options for programmers around here are basically:

- EA's Tiburon Studios
- Fighting for one of the few non-outsourced jobs at just about any other employer

...so that might very well change, as much as I dig that stuff.

Dakravel · Posts: 125

Apparently what I think and what I type are two entirely different things.

I meant to ask, what kind of philosophy are you most interested in. I, for example, happen to like philo of mind and ethics.

Touran · Posts: 49

I leave for college in about a week, (this sunday in fact). Attending Rochester institute of technology, which is in New York. The major I got accepted for was information technology or something close to that. I think I'm going to change it. From what I've heard, it's a rather large waste of time.

Also, this is my first post here.

jutla, a · Posts: 240

I'm an English major. Which is cool.

The catch is, I'm a pre-med English major, which is less cool; I was kind of coerced into this by my mother. She was like "FUCK YOU, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GO ANYWHERE WITH AN ENGLISH DEGREE." And I was like, "But, pre-med? What the fuck?" And then she reminded me who was paying tuition and the argument ended there.

But, yeah. I'd better do something about this before it gets serious.

thatbox · Posts: 816

I GO TO COLLEGE.

I have another semester to decide on a major. It could be FRENCH!

BalbanesBeoulve · Posts: 2126

I've been going to college for 3 years now. This fall is my fourth. I still haven't declared a major, but I'm going to declare accounting soon. I've already fucked around for 3 years, taking a ton of classes that ended up pretty useless like 2 semesters of japanese and a class on musicals, and a bunch of CS classes when I thought I wanted to major in CS. But I'm gonna focus on graduating now, and I'm probably going to take summer classes to get done quicker, which up to now I haven't done.

Persona-sama · Posts: 1145

Is smartblue the same person as deepblue?
These shades of azul with different prefixes are confusing me.

I'm attending the California Institute of the Arts over here in California in like a week! I don't have the money for it though. If I did, I could afford to buy two Lexuses (Lexii?) a year! This is an ever deepening source of anxiety.

The only way people can get rich off art is by starting art schools!

Psiga · Posts: 3990

Persona-sama wrote:

Is smartblue the same person as deepblue?

I was wondering that. Then didn't care enough to look into it. If it is, then he's definitely going to spend his free time with 'girls' -- just, in this case, his wife and daughter.

Of course, this is why I think that smartblue is not deepblue. The one we know so well is already aware of what to do with his free time.

Incidentally, I'm thinking of getting one of those 'Blue' credit cards. They seem like a fair deal.

On topic: I AM GRADUATED. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

-Psiga

icycalm · Posts: 442

No you are not.

Life is a lesson, you learn it when you're through.

See my death thread.

Psiga · Posts: 3990

I am graduated from college. See the 'college' thread (this one).

You're feeling frisky today, aren't you. Go find some sailors, you Nazi-harboring cheese-eater.

-Psiga

smartblue · Posts: 254

Persona-sama wrote:

Is smartblue the same person as deepblue?

No, but I was here before as Dr. Awesome. I thought it would be fun not to tell anyone who I was until someone wondered. Smartblue is the name I usually use anyway.

I have my second day in a couple of minutes here. I also have a dentist appointment right before my class in Maple. I hope for some Kramer-esque shenanigans.

My potential significant other is an EE major. There isn't a lot of difference in the curriculum between EE and my major, Computer Engineering and Computer Science. It's just that for her internships she gets to operate plasma cutters in steel refineries and I'm sure for my internships I get to go to some office and become that tech guy as I maintain system infrastructures.

icycalm · Posts: 442

Psiga wrote:

I am graduated from college. See the 'college' thread (this one).

You're feeling frisky today, aren't you. Go find some sailors, you Nazi-harboring cheese-eater.

-Psiga

Just because I like France doesn't mean I love sailors, cheese and/or Nazis.

aderack · Posts: 5018

jutla, a wrote:

My psychology teacher has one arm. And is gay.

He gave us a speech about how a big problem people have, with psychology, is that they tend to try to use their own intuition too much. He said, actually, psychology has its own framework of rules and structure, so very little of it has anything to do with common sense; using it will only get you in trouble.

Which is interesting considering that I never read a word of any textbook and barely listened to any lectures in any psychology classes I took, and just filled in the answers on the exams according to my own intuition, and got an A on every one.

And. Come to think of it, that's probably your point, isn't it.

dhex · Posts: 2963

jutla, a · Posts: 240

I sometimes have problems with the working-my-ass-off part, is the thing. And I am apparently signed up for anatomy, maybe even this semester.

So I don't know how that's going to work out.

thatbox · Posts: 816

jutla, a wrote:

I sometimes have problems with the working-my-ass-off part, is the thing. And I am apparently signed up for anatomy, maybe even this semester.

So I don't know how that's going to work out.

You'll be able to easily determine the on/off state of your ass, for starters.

the vinculum gate · Posts: 2868

i said his journalism degree was a waste because that's what i've heard over the years. i haven't finished a journalism program so i don't know. fuck off.

and i do plan on going to grad school
maybe law....
dunno.

Thunder Force 6 · Posts: 308

UofL has a decent law school... I think...

I'm in med school here at the aforementioned. First year, and class started ten minutes ago. Well, if you want to call it a class. It's mostly your professor standing there, bombarding you with information, almost taunting you in knowing one can't learn it all.

So is it a class? Maybe. Is it teaching? Well...

On the other hand, I did get to rip some guy's lungs out yesterday.

...

Nobody here smokes pot. I don't think they play games, either. As much as I want to think they mean "playing Killer 7" when saying "working out at the gym," I fear I'm afloat in a sea of yuppies.

Brock · Posts: 421

I move out Saturday to start at UT Austin.

I'm currently an Advertising major. I'm...not so sure about it, but I like to draw, I like to write, so why not attempt to apply them?

UT's College of Communications is apparently a real bitch to get into, so if Advertising isn't my thing, I won't jump ship immediately. I'm considering Journalism as my back-up.

Kohaku is love · Posts: 23

Thunder Force 6 wrote:

On the other hand, I did get to rip some guy's lungs out yesterday.

Oh fuck yeah, I'm looking forward to this shit next semester. Hope to get the heart. So, did anyone in your class pass out as they saw the dead bodies?

But yeah, here it's the same problem. Nobody here seems to play games, alkohol and pot is used though. Some student who just finished also introduced me to something interesting: laughing gas. Absolutely harmless (well, if you dont do it like 10 times a day...) and with pretty funny results. oh well. Other than that: yeah, yuppies.

dhex · Posts: 2963

hippie crack!

Swimmy · Posts: 147

Yeah, college. GMU. Economics. Blah blah blah.

Let's just read some retarded essays, from an old roomate at UTK. Athletic training major or some nonsense. Football coach's assistant.

http://www.livejournal.com/~swimmy/34790.html
http://www.livejournal.com/~swimmy/34851.html
http://www.livejournal.com/~swimmy/35236.html
http://www.livejournal.com/~swimmy/47546.html
http://www.livejournal.com/~swimmy/47710.html
http://www.livejournal.com/~swimmy/48096.html

Thunder Force 6 · Posts: 308

Kohaku is love wrote:

Thunder Force 6 wrote:

On the other hand, I did get to rip some guy's lungs out yesterday.

Oh fuck yeah, I'm looking forward to this shit next semester. Hope to get the heart. So, did anyone in your class pass out as they saw the dead bodies?

But yeah, here it's the same problem. Nobody here seems to play games, alkohol and pot is used though. Some student who just finished also introduced me to something interesting: laughing gas. Absolutely harmless (well, if you dont do it like 10 times a day...) and with pretty funny results. oh well. Other than that: yeah, yuppies.

Believe it or not, nobody's been ill yet. It isn't quite as disgusting as one might imagine; it feels sterile, and dare I say, scientific. There's just a detachment that prevents one from pondering the fact he is cutting an antecedent person.

Heart's Friday. Things move at quite the clip.

The lungs are pretty big; about the size and mass of a rugby ball, believe it or not.

I make this comparison because whilst holding it I couldn't help but think about using it for rugby.

...

I fear I'll be the only guy with enough humor to gas the class.

With laughing gas...

Of course.

Mr. Mechanical · Posts: 1890

aderack wrote:

Mr. Mechanical wrote:

Rud13 wrote:

So what does that say about Philosophy majors?

Actually, I don't know because I've never met or hung out with many Philosophy majors in real life. However, judging by all the ones I've met on the internet they seem like the more slightly, tightly wound, reserved type.

Hi.

Hello.

aderack wrote:

There are worse places to be. At least they're interested in something, and they have something to talk about. It's just -- Jesus. Voice an idea that doesn't come from a book and they'll bite your head off.

I think you've just hit the head on the nail of why I've never really been interested in studying philosophy. Just the other day I started thinking about it and wondering why every time philosophy was concerned all the supposed philosophers started quoting from their favorite text books on the subject. Made me wonder where all the modern philosophers were, kind of, because as it now from the perspective of someone on the outside it looks like nobody has had anything new to say for at least fifty or a hundred years. Which doesn't sound too good.

dhex · Posts: 2963

robert nozick is pretty good, if you're into that sort of thing.

Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

Walter should come in here and spread some love.

I done gradumacated with a degree in linguistics. (2 classes short of a degree in CS, 5 classes short of a degree in geology, 1 class short of a minor in electronic music. I took a lot of classes.) The main purpose of an undergraduate degree, aside from getting you into grad school in the field of your choice, is proving to any potential employer that you have what it takes to deal with logistical bullshit and can meet basic goals.

I mean, unless you're actually interested in what you're learning and the department is good enough to keep pace with you. Which is what happened for me. I imagine that I'm pretty lucky in that aspect, though. Not that linguistics has a lot of applications in the job market, unless you're into programming search engines and compilers. Generally, it's easier to teach ling majors basic programming rather than try and teach CS students linguistics.

As for college in general, take lots of classes in multiple areas. Try and avoid the general intro classes and find the weird side-area lectures that are sometimes open to non-majors. Don't be afraid to sit in on classes that you're not enrolled in. Avoid the people who treat college as a bigger version of high school. College is also a good time to figure out how life in general works and how to manipulate it to your advantage.

aderack · Posts: 5018

Mr. Mechanical wrote:

I think you've just hit the head on the nail of why I've never really been interested in studying philosophy. Just the other day I started thinking about it and wondering why every time philosophy was concerned all the supposed philosophers started quoting from their favorite text books on the subject. Made me wonder where all the modern philosophers were, kind of, because as it now from the perspective of someone on the outside it looks like nobody has had anything new to say for at least fifty or a hundred years. Which doesn't sound too good.

I started because, you know, philosophy! Neat ideas and new perspectives! New ways of understanding!

I confused everyone in the program because I generally didn't remember names, dates, or page numbers, or precisely who said precisely what (caring little), and yet I'd consistently turn in the best papers and make the best observations in every class, without basing them on anything in particular aside from what was in front of me. My professors kept urging me to enter random junk I'd written into competitions, saying I was close to some kind of a "breakthrough" -- which I didn't bother doing, because it was just nonsense I'd written for class. It's not like I had any investment in any of it.

It got to the point, eventually, of something close to screaming matches in a couple of specific classes, between me and a couple of other people who kept refuting everything I said with some quip from Aristotle or whatever instead of just following the line of reasoning I set out. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. I think I scared that one professor.

I never did quite get my degree, although I have all of the credits to do so. It's just that at the last moment another professor decided to give me one notch lower a grade than I needed in one vital class; he couldn't understand how one of my papers was "philosophical", because, you see, I barely cited anyone.

I just... I couldn't deal with it anymore. No more games. If that's how he wanted to be, then that was his business. I got all I needed.

If my experience of the last two years are anything to go by, I don't think I'd want any job I'd need a second degree for anyway. Or most that I'd need the one for. The "job market" is even more revolting than academia. And that's, really, the only use a degree holds. It's like the business cards they make you flash at trade shows. You can show them all the official ID you want; they won't let you in unless you have a business card. Which says more than it should, about a lot of things.

Mr. Mechanical · Posts: 1890

Shit, man, you should go back and get that diploma and then publish a huge book of that "nonsense". So what if you had no investment in it, it seems a few other people did. Humor them. Make your own philosophy and all that, change the landscape a bit. There's always room for some new landscaping. It sounds like it'd be a lot more interesting than spending so much time on videogames.

You kind of make it sound like you've got a success story just waiting to happen, but you don't care enough to do it. Just go ahead and do it if it's so effortless to you, what have you got to lose? In fact, forget playing games with academics, just write the book yourself and see if you can get it published. Well, if there's even a book to write, I mean.

Though, it occurs to me, who would you even be writing for in this case? Joe Public, Academia, yourself? What kind of "breakthrough" were your professors talking about, and what was the significance of it?

aderack · Posts: 5018

About a year ago I went back and re-read some of the things I wrote at the time. I honestly haven't a fucking clue what I was talking about. It was all contextual, you see. I don't understand any of the references or terms I used, anymore. Anyway, they really weren't that special. Truly. And that's part of what annoyed me into apathy, I think.

I don't know what they were talking about. I think it's just a cross-disciplinary thing, like applying Hume's ideas to Plato, OH MY GOD! THE GENIUS! DID YOU HEAR WHAT HE DID WITH THAT CHORD?! Something that wouldn't matter to anyone who hadn't been teaching the Nicomachean Ethics for twenty years.

I think I posted a couple of papers and things to my livejournal, somewhere around late 2000 to early 2002. Hell if I'm going to look for them now, though.

This isn't about me, really. It's just about my frustration with a system where I thought I might, you know, learn something. And maybe be able to talk with people about it. Instead, I got... this. This entrenchment, where even a slight outsider perspective is considered both threatening and amazing.

The whole reception I got was "what planet does this guy come from?" just because I wasn't particularly obsessed with anything and instead more generally curious. When you've got a situation where that warrants confusion... well.

nICO · Posts: 130

I know what you mean. Before going to college I was really excited about taking philosophy classes and majoring in philosophy.

Then I took a class.

It was all memorization and/or simply trying to emulate another person's thought. I was expecting to engage the texts to broaden my understanding of the world, but what I got was no different from a sociology or a math class. I even had a decently good professor who actually attempted to make the focus of the class on our personal reactions to the text rather than an objective mastery of the text itself. The system couldn't really be bent enough, though, and the class ended up being a complete mess.

I switched majors several times and dabbled in even more fields including Accounting, History, Computer Science, and Education, finally settling on a combo of English and MIS.

All business programs, except for perhaps high level accounting, are mindblowingly dumb. It seems that anything they can teach you a person who would actually be a good businessman would already recognize. English is annoying for the same reason I disliked Philosophy, though it's a bit looser (for obvious wishy-washy reasons), which is nice, and my professors have tended to encourage outsider ideas more than reacted in disgust.

A good English paper can address the same ideas a Philosophy paper would cover only you can have more creativity in how you do it and the discipline is not as suffocated on its past. Which is why I stuck with English, I guess.

psychoant · Posts: 101

I'm another Political Science and Economics major. I did first year journalism to start with and all it did was convince me that ethics are optional when you're a journalist.

I really dig Political Science now apart from the fucks majoring in journalism who take some of my classes to get a minor in PS. If you don't do the forty odd pages of reading for the class, don't act surprised when the tutor asks you to leave...

hipkondo · Posts: 206

I'm a cognitive systems major!

IC needs a frat. Although if it ends up looking like Revenge of the Nerds I'm out.

Rud13 · Posts: 3277

I'm currently debating my living condtions. My school decided to proper fuck everyone this year: RAs have roomates, Juniors getting stuck in dorms with no A/C, every single room in my dorm went from a 2 person room to a 3 person room. The rooms are about the size of a hotel room, with 2 sets of closests, and a private bathroom. The 3rd person's furniture is sort of pushed into the room with no real asteticly pleasing place to set it.

One of my roomates seems to be an outgoing, easy-going, neat (as in tidy) freshman frat boy. He drinks, but is actually here to study and get a degree. I'm perfectly fine with him.

The other is a pothead that hasn't come in before 1AM baked out his mind. He hasn't gone to the floor meetings, in response to the no-alcholol merch rule, he said, "Their not going to do anything." We had to clean out our bathroom so it would be cleaned or we will be fined. His response to do that was, "They aren't going to do anything, man." Finally for the 2nd night in a row he's gone through my roomate's wallet and taken his dorm entry key, THEN SAID, "I'm taking this man."

I've been offered by a friend who is an RA whose roomate hasn't shown up yet, to room in with him, I'd supposedly get 400 bucks back, but probably wouldn't have a parking space. I'd also be moving a lot closer to my classes, but have community showers and toilets.

Persona-sama · Posts: 1145

It sounds like a good deal minus the parking space. Do you have to clean your own communal bathrooms though?

It sounds more convenient than your current room anyway.

dark steve · Posts: 3002

Kids like that tend to not stick around very long, I've found. You could wait till he gets busted for something pretty large (it'll happen), then have you and the other roommate file separate complaints at the same time, they'll put him on some sort of probation and that might scare him off. Kids like that are looking for an excuse to leave anyway. I remember that kind of thing happening once or twice my first semester. Dorm living, especially random assignment, is kind of a war.

A girl I used to go out with once shut off a suitemate's alarm clock so she'd fail her midterm and have to leave. It was pretty terrible, but the suitemate probably wasn't going to make it anyway, and she had done some fairly horrible things herself.

So in summary, I don't know why evil girls are hot, but they are.

edwardappleby · Posts: 129

We has a closed door drinking policy that was pretty weird, so there was quite a bit of partying in the dorms and most of the RAs, myself included, didn't really care all that much. We avoided problems as much as possible and the only time we would take care of anything is if people either were completetly blatantly doing something wrong right in front of us or someone called and made a complaint to the front desk.

But yeah, a lot of other schools have RAs that are dicks about the rules, so, yeah.

B coma · Posts: 1455

My RA got fired freshman year so his last night everyone drank on his dime just to spite the management.

ryan · Posts: 297

aderack wrote:

This isn't about me, really. It's just about my frustration with a system where I thought I might, you know, learn something. And maybe be able to talk with people about it. Instead, I got... this. This entrenchment, where even a slight outsider perspective is considered both threatening and amazing.

This reminded me of the best philosophy class I've taken, The History of Economic Thought. It went from strict history to philosophy very quickly, with talks about Tertullian, Clement of Alexandria, Aristotle, Hume, Smith, Plato, early Islamic/Jewish/Christian law, etc., all about the views of man's worth in regards to a just price and the motivations that lead to those thoughts, and the professor was really open to discussion. He even lead a discussion based off of a presentation of Doctor Faustus. I was in some sort of weird earthly heaven in that class.

Critical Thinking, determining equations for arguments and solving them out, was interesting but oh-so close to math for my tastes. We did go through a chunk of Gorgias to use it in general application, and I think that made my nose bleed a little.

aderack · Posts: 5018

Yes. That's... more like what I was anticipating.

Rud13 · Posts: 3277

aderack wrote:

Mr. Mechanical wrote:

I think you've just hit the head on the nail of why I've never really been interested in studying philosophy. Just the other day I started thinking about it and wondering why every time philosophy was concerned all the supposed philosophers started quoting from their favorite text books on the subject. Made me wonder where all the modern philosophers were, kind of, because as it now from the perspective of someone on the outside it looks like nobody has had anything new to say for at least fifty or a hundred years. Which doesn't sound too good.

I started because, you know, philosophy! Neat ideas and new perspectives! New ways of understanding!

I confused everyone in the program because I generally didn't remember names, dates, or page numbers, or precisely who said precisely what (caring little), and yet I'd consistently turn in the best papers and make the best observations in every class, without basing them on anything in particular aside from what was in front of me. My professors kept urging me to enter random junk I'd written into competitions, saying I was close to some kind of a "breakthrough" -- which I didn't bother doing, because it was just nonsense I'd written for class. It's not like I had any investment in any of it.

It got to the point, eventually, of something close to screaming matches in a couple of specific classes, between me and a couple of other people who kept refuting everything I said with some quip from Aristotle or whatever instead of just following the line of reasoning I set out. I can't tell you how frustrating it was. I think I scared that one professor.

I never did quite get my degree, although I have all of the credits to do so. It's just that at the last moment another professor decided to give me one notch lower a grade than I needed in one vital class; he couldn't understand how one of my papers was "philosophical", because, you see, I barely cited anyone.

I just... I couldn't deal with it anymore. No more games. If that's how he wanted to be, then that was his business. I got all I needed.

If my experience of the last two years are anything to go by, I don't think I'd want any job I'd need a second degree for anyway. Or most that I'd need the one for. The "job market" is even more revolting than academia. And that's, really, the only use a degree holds. It's like the business cards they make you flash at trade shows. You can show them all the official ID you want; they won't let you in unless you have a business card. Which says more than it should, about a lot of things.

And once again, my thinking is ridiculously close to Aderack's!

evnvnv · Posts: 333

I went to a 4 year liberal arts college, graduated, and am now attending a community college. I think I have done something backwards.

But being in community college now after going through 4 years of private-school college is interesting. It makes me appreciate both a lot more.

I never went to a giant state school type university, but from what I've gathered from friends and relatives involved at those places, you're probably better off at a good, small community college in a big city (in the state you are from, out of state fees are stupid). They are basically like high school extensions, but they are cheap, have a surprising variety of classes, and seem to be more into the idea of giving students enough space to hold down a job and an outside life. You miss out on dorm life and other "COLLEGE" things, but those things suck so much you are better off without them.

I would recommend a small liberal arts school to anyone for this reason: like dhex said, what you actually study in undergrad is sort of "useless"--at a small school you are likely to have more bizarre variety in the stuff you learn, so you will be likely to acquire some interests that while not lucrative or whatever, will provide you with some kind of mental activity for (ideally) the rest of your life... but not everyone likes the idea of dealing with loans and shit, so I understand anyone who calls bullshit on the attendees of such small (expensive) schools. That being said, with financial aid, loans, and work study, I am not exactly going to be bled dry over the next 15 years. And I know plenty of folks who have gotten away with paying way less than me...

As I am now also in "the real world" (a phrase that has no meaning...) I hear a lot of people who have a lot of bad things to say about college, even from those who went. Obviously an undergraduate degree is not a ticket to a high paying job, or even any kind of job. And yes, it is a lot of money, no matter where you go (unless its free). And a lot of what is referred to as 'academia' is kind of bullshit. But... I like learning about stuff, and I'm quite happy to have spent the past 4 years reading great books, watching brilliant films, learning about fields that technically are not interesting to me at all, and ... being in an environment where messing around with drugs and absurd party extravagance is not a ticket to jail, addiction, or whatever. You wouldn't believe what the addition of a regimented class schedule can do for your ability to stay 'on track' enough to not turn into a total wastoid. And even though I'm sort of "starting over" with a low paying job (minimum wage) and starting at an entirely different school... I'm pretty sure it was worth it!

gunshinji · Posts: 186

I'm just going to school for history and business... major - business/ minor - history.

Mr. Business · Posts: 1530

I'm a sophomore computer science major, and I find college to be mostly a tiresome strain. I guess I'm just tired of going to school, and frankly I'm hoping to be out of here as fast as humanly possible with some good job skills, some decent knowledge, and a degree. I have friends who want to stay in college for some 5-6 years because they love it so much, but this concept boggles my mind. I'd be happy to be out of here in three years, and I will be if I can take enough summer courses for the next two years to fill my requirements.

I gave up on the so-called "college experience" my first semester of freshman year, and thus far nothing has changed my opinion on the matter. People say that college is some sort of developmental time in one's life, but I would argue that it's just the same old grind. College is one of the most soul-sucking experiences of my life, and I will be glad to put it behind me quickly.

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

aderack wrote:

About a year ago I went back and re-read some of the things I wrote at the time. I honestly haven't a fucking clue what I was talking about. It was all contextual, you see. I don't understand any of the references or terms I used, anymore. Anyway, they really weren't that special. Truly. And that's part of what annoyed me into apathy, I think.

I don't know what they were talking about. I think it's just a cross-disciplinary thing, like applying Hume's ideas to Plato, OH MY GOD! THE GENIUS! DID YOU HEAR WHAT HE DID WITH THAT CHORD?! Something that wouldn't matter to anyone who hadn't been teaching the Nicomachean Ethics for twenty years.

I think I posted a couple of papers and things to my livejournal, somewhere around late 2000 to early 2002. Hell if I'm going to look for them now, though.

This isn't about me, really. It's just about my frustration with a system where I thought I might, you know, learn something. And maybe be able to talk with people about it. Instead, I got... this. This entrenchment, where even a slight outsider perspective is considered both threatening and amazing.

The whole reception I got was "what planet does this guy come from?" just because I wasn't particularly obsessed with anything and instead more generally curious. When you've got a situation where that warrants confusion... well.

You probably should've gone English or Poli Sci. If you take the right classes you get exposed to a lot of the same literature but (on average) from a moderately more sane perspective. At the very least, it's from the perspective of someone who is an "outsider". I've had a lot of really great classes on philosophy in both poli sci and english.

Crazy Bacon Lips · Posts: 783

Rud13 wrote:

I've been offered by a friend who is an RA whose roomate hasn't shown up yet, to room in with him, I'd supposedly get 400 bucks back, but probably wouldn't have a parking space. I'd also be moving a lot closer to my classes, but have community showers and toilets.

Community showers in toilets aren't that bad if you hate cleaning, because other people do it for you. Not having to sop up your suitemate's pube-piss stew is certainly a plus, although I can see how some people might not like showering and shaving and shitting next to a ton of other folks. But larger dorms like that are nice, as there's a level of comraderie you just don't get in a suite-style dorm.

extralife · Posts: 3316

I was never ever interested in school of any sort ever. People looked at me (and still do, and probably always will) and say "You're smart! You should be doing all kinds of things in school!"

I kind of think maybe I was just smart enough not to.

BalbanesBeoulve · Posts: 2126

extralife wrote:

I was never ever interested in school of any sort ever. People looked at me (and still do, and probably always will) and say "You're smart! You should be doing all kinds of things in school!"

I kind of think maybe I was just smart enough not to.

For reals. You should totally just live at home forevers.