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vision · Posts: 472

dessgeega wrote:

i wonder if an insertcredit 24-hour developathon would yield interesting results.

no, i don't wonder. i know.

I talked with Mokhir about the following in #IC:
Someone should make a quick Game Maker game that we pass around between insert credit designers for a week at a time. Each person can change anything they want, add anything they want and keep anything they want. The idea is you can either get a really well-refined game, or better yet, a complete joke of a game that keeps surprising people. Each week a compiled version is posted, and the source file is sent to the next person in line.

There could even be boundaries, like each person make a room in this game. Or each person make one enemy. That's all up for discussion.

I'm saying this here so you will tell me to make a thread about it.

I also support the 24-hour developathon, but that's hard to organize on a forum without a bit of good faith.

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EDIT: Order of Ceremonies:

KoD Game Maker Melee
~~01. vision~~ (»)
~~02. dessgeega~~ (»)
~~03. Mister Toups~~ (»)
04. Mokhir
05. Persona-sama
06. janus
07. NightsB
08. charlie
09. professor_scissors
10. GrimSweeper
11. Monthenor
...

KoD Fusion Tactics
01. the blueberry hill
02. janus
03. another god
...

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

vision wrote:

I'm saying this here so you will tell me to make a thread about it.

look, i did it for you!

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

I propose that we do this after a few weeks or so when everyone knows gamemaker or what-have-you better.

Mokhir · Posts: 111

Mister Toups wrote:

I propose that we do this after a few weeks or so when everyone knows gamemaker or what-have-you better.

Agreed.

Also, I was about to ask you (vision) if you or I should start this thread.

vision · Posts: 472

Mister Toups wrote:

I propose that we do this after a few weeks or so when everyone knows gamemaker or what-have-you better.

Sure thing. We can flesh out simple guidelines here.

There's the issue of dealing between people with registered and unregistered versions of Game Maker, for instance. It would be nice to not include functions that some can't utilize (or even see, as far as I know) in the free version of the software.

Also, an attempt should be made not to bog the game down with gratuitous scripts. If we keep it essentially the drag-and-drop functions, without too much of one object calling on another, it will remain workable. I don't think anyone want's to deconstruct a game for hours before changing a few things here and there.

Persona-sama · Posts: 1145

I say let's do this!
(Mostly so I can reverse-engineer the stuff and learn how Gamemaker works!)

the blueberry hill · Posts: 458

How about one in Game Maker and one in Multimedia Fusion.

Game Maker vs. Multimedia Fusion!

Game Maker just doesn't work properly on my computer. Aside from the fact that I'm not used to it like I am with the Clickteam softwares.

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

i think doing a couple different platforms concurrently is a good idea, given that people with macs can't use gamemaker or run gamemaker games.

schild · Posts: 536

Easily we could do something like this with art as a seperate thing. Someone starts a thread with a sprite of a character or object, and someone adds a related thing after that. And then it keeps going. See how far it gets removed by the time people get bored. We could even make a list of people to know what order people should post in...

Just a thought.

Could probably come up with an assload of assets for whatever if people devoted the time to it.

vision · Posts: 472

I just (quickly) made a wonderfully simple (dumb, addictive) game that is perfect to get this project rolling. I won't make it available for download until we get a list of people willing to participate.

sneak peek:

the blueberry hill · Posts: 458

That's in Game Maker, yes? I'll do something quick in Fusion to get shit rolling.

That capture looks like an intriguing starting point... that 73 and the coin are creepy.

janus · Posts: 63

Is fusion usable without buying a copy? I know GM has a free version.

Not a huge fan of GM or fusion, but it's always nice to get a fresh perspective on things. I'd be up for this, as long as it it fits with my schedule somewhat well.

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

That looks hot.

Can't wait to get this started.

NightsB · Posts: 157

i like it! are the rooms going to be static, and then you move from one room to the next, like in zelda? i have a great idea for sound if it were like that. i guess having sound guys work exclusively on the game for a week would kind of be counter-productive to the design. would the sound guys just be working on it continuously? or should any of the sound guys that want to work on it pair up with an actual designer? because i'm mostly an #ic guy, and that makes interaction much easier for me.

vision · Posts: 472

NightsB wrote:

i like it! are the rooms going to be static, and then you move from one room to the next, like in zelda?

What I envision is big match of game dev tennis. I'll serve up the first compiled game (and source file) soon, and the next person will "return" it (to the next in line) by changing it in any way they see fit.

The idea is to watch the game slowly evolve, the gameplay itself as well as its sights and sounds, though leaving a bit of what was there before.

I think if we each just created one room, that would mean less changes to gameplay, and would essentially have everyone designing add-on rooms for the first person's game (which may be fine for another project).

I say we just get started and see where this leads (if nothing else it will be good design/dev practice).

NightsB wrote:

i guess having sound guys work exclusively on the game for a week would kind of be counter-productive to the design. would the sound guys just be working on it continuously?

Since this is entirely unofficial, I see no harm at all in having you work on sound in the middle of the project. You can develop sound based on another's (or many others') design and physics, and then a week later, the next programmer or artist can design further based on your music.

If nobody has any objections (or time constraints), here's a tentative order (with no schedule yet):

KoD Game Maker Melee
1. vision
2. dessgeega
3. Mister Toups
4. Mokhir
5. Persona-sama
6. janus (either this or fusion)
7. NightsB
...

KoD Fusion Tactics
1. the blueberry hill
2. janus (this or game maker)
...

schild wrote:

Easily we could do something like this with art as a seperate thing. Someone starts a thread with a sprite of a character or object, and someone adds a related thing after that.

I like the sound of that too... start a thread! Round up sawtooth and the pixel boys!

Monthenor · Posts: 455

Persona-sama wrote:

I say let's do this!
(Mostly so I can reverse-engineer the stuff and learn how Gamemaker works!)

professor_scissors · Posts: 1033

I know Game Maker.

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

to include people who don't have the full version of gamemaker, we shouldn't use any features exclusive to the registered version, and someone should be on hand to compile .exes of each round's source.

the blueberry hill · Posts: 458

vision wrote:

What I envision is big match of game dev tennis. I'll serve up the first compiled game (and source file) soon, and the next person will "return" it (to the next in line) by changing it in any way they see fit.

The idea is to watch the game slowly evolve, the gameplay itself as well as its sights and sounds, though leaving a bit of what was there before.

I think if we each just created one room, that would mean less changes to gameplay, and would essentially have everyone designing add-on rooms for the first person's game (which may be fine for another project).

I say we just get started and see where this leads (if nothing else it will be good design/dev practice).

Good point. I';ve just rethought the game I was going to begin. The process reminds me of Wikipedia.

* * *

As for Multimedia Fusion, there's a 30 day trial with limits on saving exes. I won't talk about torrents or other pirate bunk in here.

Also, there's nothing to stop people working on the Game Maker, and the Fusion project. i might have to try and mess with the GM one if noone else uses MMF...

I'll try and have Bullet Hell Hockey League 2006 posted Monday or Tuesday, to win some of you over.

eshock · Posts: 132

A really fun thing to do is put together a communal set of art assets, then have everyone make their own game using them. Alternatively, have everyone design a game around the same concept.

charlie · Posts: 211

Still taking participants? If so I want to join the Game Maker division.

vision · Posts: 472

Well, let's get the ball rolling:

KoD Game Maker Melee
round 1: zombie v. mummy: shadow puppet survival theater
· screenshot · download ·

CONTROLS: UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT
GAMEPLAY: FIGURE IT OUT

Share your high score.

I'm going to comment my code (and change one script to a drag-n-drop function, for anyone with a non-registered copy of gamemaker), then send the source file to dess for her turn. I wish her luck in turning this into something else.

professor_scissors · Posts: 1033

Can I join?

vision · Posts: 472

EDIT: order of ceremonies in top post ^

professor_scissors · Posts: 1033

Yay!
High Score 890 for now.

another god · Posts: 1629

i'll do something with multimedia fusion. i um... already do stuff with multimedia fusion...

GrimSweeper · Posts: 530

I'll gladly follow after prof. scissors in the Game Maker melee. I need to do something game development related that isn't part of the idea I'm kicking around in my head (and failing to put down as code).

Monthenor · Posts: 455

Sign me up on the Game Maker side, I've learned quite a bit of GM this past week. I think I have!

professor_scissors · Posts: 1033

So is this progressing at all?

(bump!)

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

i think e3 distracted us. at least, it distracted andy, who was at e3. but now people should have had some time to familiarize themselves with game maker or fusion, and we can kick this off soon.

nothingxs · Posts: 148

I'm not particularly good at figuring everything out myself from scratch. Any decent tutorials out there for Game Maker that will familiarize me with all the basic controls?

If so, sign me up under the GM section.

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

nothingxs wrote:

I'm not particularly good at figuring everything out myself from scratch. Any decent tutorials out there for Game Maker that will familiarize me with all the basic controls?

there are some good tutorials on the official site. i'm told they're outdated now, but they're what i learned from. "your first game" through "platform games" should give you a good idea of how game maker works, i think.

the blueberry hill · Posts: 458

I was quite distracted. The thing I was working on is just sitting near usable. I havn't been near MMF for weeks, maybe, but am likely to be home plenty this week. I only need a day or two more.

I stopped thinking about it -- it looked like no one else would be taking it up after me anyway But yes. PLEASE EXPECT BULLET HELL BULLDOG WARMLY

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

Let's do this soon!

Nana Komatsu · Posts: 697

While I wouldn't want to participate directly, I would enjoy seeing the fruits of this!

vision · Posts: 472

dessgeega wrote:

we can kick this off soon.

Mister Toups wrote:

Let's do this soon!

(repost, with edits)

zombie v. mummy: shadow puppet survival theater
KoD Game Maker Melee round 1
· screenshot · download ·

CONTROLS: UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT (Arrow Keys)
GAMEPLAY: FIGURE IT OUT

Source code is now non-registered-friendly and commented to a reasonable degree, and will soon be uploaded and passed along to dess.

Also, if anyone other than professor_scissors (and hopefully dess) would like to play this game and leave feedback (high score), please feel free.

Monthenor · Posts: 455

817

I'm interested to see where this goes in the long long weeks before it reaches me. Also, there should be a drop that goes from the bottom of the screen to the top, so the bottom doesn't get quite so stupidly crowded.

vision · Posts: 472

Monthenor wrote:

there should be a drop that goes from the bottom of the screen to the top, so the bottom doesn't get quite so stupidly crowded.

I intended the game to be a race against time (see: mummy spawner), but yours remains a great idea.

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

zombie v. mummy: mouse click survival style
KoD Game Maker Melee round 2
· download ·

CONTROLS: MOUSE
GAMEPLAY: YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO

passing the baton to andrew "mister" toups.

GrimSweeper · Posts: 530

350. It is harder than the first version, but easier in terms of risk vs. reward.

vision · Posts: 472

425 and ever-rising.

Smart changes! I'm glad you threw up such a nice menu screen (& icon) as well. The zombies don't... disappear, do they? I could swear they were all hiding together in one sprite at towards the end.

Also, extra points to the first person that makes this into a rhythm game.

Jeff Garneau · Posts: 1622

there's a pit they drop into in the bottom now.

dessgeega · Posts: 3317

well, the menu screen is basically just there make sure the mouse is centered on screen when the game starts (and to provide a quickie goal and play instructions).

i'm pretty sure the zombies don't disappear, but i did up the rate at which mummies spawn by a lot.

Persona-sama · Posts: 1145

Can somebody drop me a PM when it's my turn to go at it?

Go go gadget goooo!

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

Fuck! I have to be on a business trip when this shit happens!

Uh, okay when is mine due?

Jeff Garneau · Posts: 1622

you got a job?

that has business trips?

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

Jeff Garneau wrote:

you got a job?

that has business trips?

Kind of?

By business trip I mean I wasn't at home for two days because I had band practice in another city and so I just stayed at our singer's house so I wouldn't have to drive as much.

Potato Potahto!

janus · Posts: 63

I still want to participate in this but my schedule makes it look like I probably can't do both GM and MMF (and based on that I would probably prefer GM). Also if my turn doesn't happen to roll around on a weekend I probably won't have much time to work on it. :(

the blueberry hill · Posts: 458

Sorry guys, I don't have the time for this. A MMF one seems pretty pointless anyway now. I hope I can finish the game, and just nicen it up myself.

Things are wonderful, but very frantic right now.

I havn't had a chance to try the other game yet.

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

Okay, here's mine. I didn't make many changes for such a long period of time, but my band was sort of on tour so I hope you'll forgive me. I'm not sure if my changes actually improve the game but hey, I like playing it better now. If you don't like it change it!!

download here.

Mokhir's up next!