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Toups the Elder
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 Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: Silent Hill 2 |
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| Guys, I have been playing Silent Hill 2 and I think there might be some sex undertones in it! |
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Shapermc
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| HELLO last week. |
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Hot Stott Bot
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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That's crazy because it's based on the themes of Horror film, and like, sexual undertones are a fundamental part of Horror film!
I totally wouldn't have expected that. |
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Toups the Elder
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I know WTF videogames!? |
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Toups the Elder
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Also you can look up the skirt of the girl in RE4 so clearly the game is about rape. |
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the drunken samurai
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| sup olivier |
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Iammadmak
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I demand 2ps the Elder style his beard in the form of mutton chops. That is all. |
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Mister Toups
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| You guys have obviously never had sex before. |
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dark steve
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Having sex is only for the purpose of being disturbing, Toups, it serves no other function. |
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karniphett
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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RE4 is actually a critique of capitalism. In order to achieve happiness (the objective) you must kill and complete menial tasks such as collecting jewelry (labor) which you sell to the merchant so you can better kill and survive to collect. It's all very telling, really.
I hear you can beat RE4 without talking to the merchant, though. |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Mister Toups wrote:
You guys have obviously never had sex before.
i did it but just to shock the player. |
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Mister Toups
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote:
Mister Toups wrote:
You guys have obviously never had sex before.
i did it but just to shock the player.
See it's people like you who are part of the problem.
Everyone but me in this thread is wrong and that's my opinion. Why can't we just have some good discussion instead? |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Mister Toups wrote:
See it's people like you who are part of the problem.
i disagree.
Everyone but me in this thread is wrong and that's my opinion. Why can't we just have some good discussion instead?
i've been trying to have a good discussion but all you keep saying is you're right and i'm wrong. and then everyone starts calling names. i just think two people can have sex without there being any sexual undertones. i'm not convinced. |
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Mister Toups
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Well maybe this will convince you: you're wrong!
This is just my opinion. |
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Toups the Elder
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Also how can Pyramid head rape a monster when he is a penis himself? A PENIS CAN'T HAVE A PENIS! I mean, we are talking about video games here, not crazy RECURSIVE PENIS FANTASIES. |
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Mister Toups
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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insert credit
recursive penis fantasies |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| i'm not convinced that a penis has sexual undertones. |
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Mister Toups
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote:
i'm not convinced that a penis has sexual undertones.
okay now you're just setting yourself up |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| i'm trying to have a discussion and you're resorting to name calling. |
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Shapermc
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote:
i'm trying to have a discussion and you're resorting to name calling.
Look, can we all calm down? A penis is obviously a object of sexual reproduction as it is where the sperm are "transfered" to "love pocket." As you can see we have the word sex. Sex does not need to take place for this to happen. There are two sides to every coin. |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote:
Look, can we all calm down? A penis is obviously a object of sexual reproduction as it is where the sperm are "transfered" to "love pocket."
i disagree.
As you can see we have the word sex. Sex does not need to take place for this to happen.
i'm unconvinced that sex has sexual undertones. |
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the drunken samurai
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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the drunken samurai wrote:
sup olivier
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Shapermc
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote:
Shapermc wrote:
Look, can we all calm down? A penis is obviously a object of sexual reproduction as it is where the sperm are "transfered" to "love pocket."
i disagree.
Perhaps this will help clear up any confusion:
And incase that is not enough here is a quote from Science itself: Wikipedia.
In short, this is a known list of sex organs that evolve from the same tissue in a human life.
The glans of the penis is homologous to the clitoral glans, the corpora cavernosa are homologous to the body of the clitoris, the corpus spongiosum is homologous to the vestibular bulbs beneath the labia minora, the scrotum is homologous to the labia minora and labia majora, and the foreskin homologous to the clitoral hood. The raphe does not exist in females, because there the two halves are not connected.
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nocturnedelight
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| What the hell is that? |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote:
Perhaps this will help clear up any confusion:
i simply don't see what a penis has to do with a character who looks like a walking penis. |
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the drunken samurai
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote:
Shapermc wrote:
Perhaps this will help clear up any confusion:
i simply don't see what a penis has to do with a character who looks like a walking penis.
i though he was a pyramid? hence the name.... |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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the drunken samurai wrote:
i though he was a pyramid? hence the name....
clearly he wears a pyramid on his head just because pyramids are shocking to the player. |
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Toups the Elder
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| I think you are reading too much into the game, Dess. Why would the people at Konami want to shock the player? I read an interview once where they didn't mention shocking the player at all! |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Toups the Elder wrote:
I think you are reading too much into the game, Dess.
i disagree.
Why would the people at Konami want to shock the player? I read an interview once where they didn't mention shocking the player at all!
clearly you didn't look very closely at the newspaper clipping on pyramid head's desk, where it clearly says "...an electric shock was administered..." (only in the japanese version.) |
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extralife
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| guys I think this cult is fascinating and would like to spend my life studying it's intentions within the game world of silent hill it is a marvelous story in the end. |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:40 am Post subject: |
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extralife wrote:
guys I think this cult is fascinating and would like to spend my life studying it's intentions within the game world of silent hill
i disagree.
it is a marvelous story in the end.
actually i think it is a mediocre story but still better than most horror games so i will devote my life to committing every fact to memory. |
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Mister Toups
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| You're wrong, I read in a developer interview that extralife actually finds the cult backstory boring. They only later retconned that part in. |
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the drunken samurai
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| hay guys dess is trolling |
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Mister Toups
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:46 am Post subject: |
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the drunken samurai wrote:
hay guys dess is trolling
This was also retconned. I wish ic would be a bit more careful with how it manages its backstory. |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:47 am Post subject: |
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the drunken samurai wrote:
hay guys dess is trolling
i disagree.
i was just stating my opinion and then everyone started name-calling. thought this was a "discussion" forum. |
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extralife
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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I cannot refute your existence as an unique individual
dessgeega wrote:
disagree.
It is here that I begin to lose your intentions. Obviously a disagreement cannot be rationally had on this important topic, so I must conclude you are simply exhibiting the kind of attitude that has made insert credit an infamous group of people in certain circles of the internet. I must agree with this element on this particular issue
dessgeega wrote:
actually
I'm afraid it is too late to go back on your earlier declaration at this time. Please stick to the topic at hand like a civil person.
Your sentience is not at the core of this issue, so I would appreciate it if you would stop trying to troll my thread with such a terrible derailment. I just wanted an intelligent debate. Maybe these forums were not the place?
dessgeega wrote:
it is a mediocre story
Please do not make such bold declarations. This is obviously an opinion based purely in the realm of speculation. If you cannot back up this idea, please leave my thread alone. A link to an interview about the Japanese version would do.
dessgeega wrote:
but still
Please stay on topic. I am not trying to start a fight.
dessgeega wrote:
better than most horror games
You are contradicting your earlier statement. Please, miss, can you tell me which of your opinions are fact, and which are not? I thought insert credit was more intelligent than this.
dessgeega wrote:
so i will devote my life to committing every fact to memory.
Please stop trying to tell me sex is a part of this game. It is not fact, and I woudl be appalled if you would commit such heresy to memory. instead, let us talk about the cult that runs Silent Hill and how James is secretly a member that killed his wife as a sacrafice to his followers. And don't call them satanic because Sammael is totally different and he is a benevolent being I even asked him once after performing the summoning ritual. |
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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the drunken samurai wrote:
hay guys dess is trolling
I disagree.
Shapermc wrote:
Perhaps this will help clear up any confusion:
I'm sorry but I simply don't see how posting a picture about sexual organs and a quote from a science entry on the subject have anything at all to do with the game in question and the subject of sexual themes.
Mister Toups wrote:
This is just my opinion.
And you are entitled to it, that much we agree upon. However I think you are wrong in this matter. This is also just my opinion.
Toups the Elder wrote:
Guys, I have been playing Silent Hill 2 and I think there might be some sex undertones in it!
No, I think you are just reading too much into the game. The developers never explicitly mentioned adding in a layer of sexual subtext so I don't think it's there. Sometimes a penis is just a penis, but that's just my opinion.
*sigh*
You guys just don't know how to actually discuss anything, do you? It's like I'm having to fight back the hive mind where everyone already agrees with each other and don't want to listen to any new ideas. Fuck this place.
edit-Damn it, extralife wins. |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Mechanical wrote:
Damn it, extralife wins.
i disagree. |
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extralife
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:56 am Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote:
Mr. Mechanical wrote:
Damn it, extralife wins.
i disagree.
A person on a place like insert credit obviously would. |
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:56 am Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote:
Mr. Mechanical wrote:
Damn it, extralife wins.
i disagree.
Stop trolling my thread, dess. If you want to discuss this intelligently then by all means let us attempt that. However I think you are already set in your ways and have your mind made up on this issue, and therefore intelligent debate is not possible between us. Thank you and good night.
And fuck this place, I thought you were all smart or something. Guess I was wrong. |
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Psiga
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Extralife did win, dess. In fact, is was extralife's greatest post ever.
EXTRALIFE! How does it feel to know that your greatest work is now behind you, and you are henceforth condemned to waste the rest of your time on earth meandering in the shadow of this accomplishment? |
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the drunken samurai
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| guys i am so fucking tempted to PM this thread to olivier |
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extralife
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:58 am Post subject: |
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Psiga wrote:
Extralife did win, dess. In fact, is was extralife's greatest post ever.
EXTRALIFE! How does it feel to know that your greatest work is now behind you, and you are henceforth condemned to waste the rest of your time on earth meandering in the shadow of this accomplishment?
I feel relieved. |
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:59 am Post subject: |
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the drunken samurai wrote:
guys i am so fucking tempted to PM this thread to olivier
I think we should sticky it, with a link to the original thread thrown in somewhere. |
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extralife
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:00 am Post subject: |
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| I think it's more thread fighter-y than sticky. One of those things we can point to if something like this ever comes up again. |
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Mr. Mechanical
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:02 am Post subject: |
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extralife wrote:
I think it's more thread fighter-y than sticky. One of those things we can point to if something like this ever comes up again.
Well whatever stop disagreeing with me I'm just trying to have an intelligent conversation over here I mean GOD I really think you're just going to run in circles with people if you keep this line of thinking up. |
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dessgeega
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:14 am Post subject: |
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extralife wrote:
I cannot refute your existence as an unique individual
i disagree.
It is here that I begin to lose your intentions.
it would be obvious to you if you had read the japanese strategy guide, which clearly states what my intentions are and why they are relevent.
Obviously a disagreement cannot be rationally had on this important topic
we are not disagreeing, merely having a discussion. you are stating your tragic and wrong opinion, and i am stating my, irrefutably correct, opinion.
so I must conclude you are simply exhibiting
sir, i am fully clothed. i am trying to have an intelligent discussion, meanwhile you are casting aspersions on my character. i guess this is that "insert credit feel" that insert credit is so notorious for.
I must agree with this element
i disagree.
Your sentience is not at the core of this issue
you see, if you read the employee's handbook found in the pocket of the nurse in the hospital, on page 133, you will clearly see "sentience is of the utmost importance" (japanese version only, my translation). so you see that sentience is of the utmost importance.
This is obviously an opinion based purely in the realm of speculation.
the stock market (japanese version) is irrelevent to this discussion. please stop trying to derail my thread.
the subject of sexual themes.
i am unconvinced that sexual themes have sexual undertones.
I have been playing Silent Hill 2
i disagree. you have clearly been playing the american version of silent hill 2. if you had been playing the japanese version, you would clearly see that i am right and we would not be having this discussion.
is this the "insert credit" flavor i have heard so much about? i came here looking for a serious discussion, but clearly all you people know how to do is talk about what tim rogers had for breakfast this morning.
maybe now you'll go and post about how you put strawberries in your cornflakes today. i just can't stand the self-importance of that guy.
go on, tell me i should be talking about the game. the irony will probably make my head explode. |
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the drunken samurai
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| i disagree with this top post |
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the drunken samurai
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:19 am Post subject: |
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also i just cant for the life of me ignore that tim 108 guy,first he posts on this forum,then on the front page,then on the front page again but this time linking to his own forum.
he has sex with a lot of japanese women,i am jealous and i dissagree. |
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Toups the Elder
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| Tim Rogers said he talked to the developers of SH2 and they did not mention shocking the player because THERE IS NO WORD FOR SHOCK in Japanese culture. The closest thing to shock is SHOCKU but it is like shock except extremely polite. |
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