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Legal Step
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 Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:26 am Post subject: Ebert Likes the Devils Rejects |
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Maybe horror is going to have a revival or something.
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How can I possibly give "The Devil's Rejects" a favorable review? A kind of heedless zeal transforms its horrors. The movie is not merely disgusting, but has an attitude and a subversive sense of humor.
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Lestrade
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House of 1,000 Clichés was the biggest pile of shit I ever had the misfortune to see. And I was actually rooting for Rob Zombie.
I won't even touch this movie unless I'm drunk and it's bootlegged. |
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Persona-sama
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I heard Rob Zombie on Loveline a few weeks ago.
He actually seems like an intelligent, knowledgeable movie guy.
I guess he's just not very talented as a director.
My friend went screaming out of a movie theatre after seeing "House of a Thousand Corpses." He said that no amount of refunds would bring back the braincells he lost while watching it. Now he's drafted in the South Korean military.
Thus, Rob Zombie + you = you - braincells + Korean military. |
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Shapermc
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Lestrade wrote:
House of 1,000 Clichés was the biggest pile of shit I ever had the misfortune to see. And I was actually rooting for Rob Zombie.
I saw it as a satire of horror movies. It was good but not grand. |
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Swimmy
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:26 am Post subject: |
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I think it failed as a satire. It couldn't distinguish itself, and I therefore couldn't tell the clichés it was mocking were actually being mocked rather than employed. Most critics felt the same thing - they thought it was cliché rather than satire. I hear this pissed ol' Rob off, but it's not their fault the movie fails.
I find myself disagreeing with Ebert well over half the time but quoting his opinion on almost every movie. Damned if he can't write a good review, yet I don't trust a single one of his scores. |
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aderack
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| Funny that, huh? |
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Ataru
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| it's definitely not satire, it's homage. |
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Legal Step
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:59 am Post subject: |
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The problem with House of 1000 Corpses was that Universal abondoned him while he was shooting. Then he had to wrestle with the MPAA about it. I'm not saying that the movie won't get you in the Korean military, because I haven't seen it, but that the guy has been crapped on by Hollywood repeatedly.
I wonder if there are breasts in this movie? |
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Shapermc
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| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I really liked the last paragraph of this review. |
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somewhere_else
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: A little math |
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Persona-sama wrote:
Thus, Rob Zombie + you = you - braincells + Korean military.
So then...subtract "you" from both sides, move things into a sensible arrangement and:
Rob Zombie = Korean military - braincells
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Rud13
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:36 am Post subject: |
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"The terminator of horror films" according to a commerical.
What the hell does that even mean? |
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dark steve
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| It's from the future. |
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George
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:53 am Post subject: |
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I just saw The Devil's Rejects, and I loved it.
Now I didn't see House of 1000 Corpses, and I haven't seen a lot of the 70s horror flicks Rob Zombie supposedly pays homage to.
What I did see was one delightfully sadistic road movie. I loved (practically) every minute of it. And I really appreciated the fairly major role given to Ken Foree, aka The Black Guy From Dawn of the Dead.
I'd be interested if someone with more experience in the genre finds Devil's Rejects to be satisfying or just a waste of time. I'm sure that if I hadn't seen many kung fu movies and westerns I would have loved the Kill Bill movies, but because I had I found them a curiously empty experience.
I'm also wondering whether I should go back and watch House of 1000 Corpses. Reading this review, my guess is that it didn't have much of what I liked in Devil's Rejects. |
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Rud13
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:56 am Post subject: |
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George wrote:
I'd be interested if someone with more experience in the genre finds Devil's Rejects to be satisfying or just a waste of time. I'm sure that if I hadn't seen many kung fu movies and westerns I would have loved the Kill Bill movies, but because I had I found them a curiously empty experience.
hell is that why I don't like it? |
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dark steve
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| Can't be, that's exactly why I did like it. |
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Persona-sama
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:01 am Post subject: Re: A little math |
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somewhere_else wrote:
Persona-sama wrote:
Thus, Rob Zombie + you = you - braincells + Korean military.
So then...subtract "you" from both sides, move things into a sensible arrangement and:
Rob Zombie = Korean military - braincells
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Yes indeedy!
Likewise:
Korean military = Rob Zombie + braincells
Really. The Korean military are just a bunch of violent children in play-costumes with loaded guns. It's like the police minus the guns part! |
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Karoshi
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:40 am Post subject: |
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[quote]I won't even touch this movie unless I'm drunk and it's bootlegged.[/qoute]
I watched a screener a few days ago.
It's not the first movie.
It felt like a Sam Peckinpah western. |
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Shapermc
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:46 am Post subject: |
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Yea... I just watched it last night. I really enjoyed it. I do feel pity for humanity as the theatre burst into laughter at the 'road kill' scene. The guy to our left laughed for a full minute, at least, after it. This movie is a mix of Action/Western/Horror movie to me. There really are no good guys in the film either. The musical sequences are probably the best parts of this film. The opening credits... are fantastic. Sometimes (mainly towards the end) his pacing falls apart a little, but most of the time it is going at a breakneck speed.
Unfortunately the audience that I saw this movie with was horrible (there were no less than 5 children under the age of 10 there... which brings up more than one question). I will probably pick this up on DVD when it comes out. Otis was great. |
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Karoshi
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| Sid Haig is playing Professor Curien in House of the Dead 2. |
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EndlessChris
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Rud13 wrote:
"The terminator of horror films" according to a commerical.
What the hell does that even mean?
I thought the exact same thing - that line makes no sense. So you're saying among horror films it's notable and popular but not really a huge deal until you get to the sequel? |
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dark steve
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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That would make 1,000 corpses The Terminator of horror.
Or Evil Dead I guess. |
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George
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| Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Don't joke around, kids. The first Terminator is even better than the second. T2 is a great flick, but the original was grittier, and the Arnold-terminator is still the most intimidating.
And yeah, The Devil's Rejects was definitely influenced by Peckinpah. One difference between Rejects and the Wild Bunch is that the Bunch were clearly good guys that we really liked, and we saw that because the member who had been caught by the police wanted nothing more than to rejoin them. Rejects makes it fairly ambiguous whether we're supposed to root for the Firefly family or not, which could be seen as a lack of conviction on Rob Zombie's part or just a way of making things more morally complex.
The story was a bit rough at times (although I liked it overall), but the visual style and music was always spot on. |
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