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aderack · Posts: 5018

I feel inclined to make my own crullers now. I, however, have two problems. One problem is that doughnuts need to be deep-fried and I have neither the equipment nor the knowhow to accomplish this. Two problem is that I'm not sure about my recipe. It calls for four cups of flour. What if, however, I want to (as any sane person would) make chocolate crullers? How then do I balance the cocoa against the flour?

Experience tells me that you need about the same amount of cocoa as flour for a baked good to actually taste like chocolate. Do I then remove any flour, proportionately, to balance this extra dry matter -- or do I just dump the cocoa into the existing recipe, without any adjustment?

Does anyone here have doughnut experience?

jutla, a · Posts: 240

I ate a doughnut once.

BalbanesBeoulve · Posts: 2126

Go to the grocery store and buy some.

the blueberry hill · Posts: 458

That's pretty creepy man.

I spent a few hours yesterday hunting around the Internet for recipes. It's something I'm going to be trying out within the fortnight, but I live above a restaurant, so have access to a deep fryer.

So you are going to bake them? You could always try a saucepan, or skillet filled with a few inches of oil in place of the fryer.

I'm not sure about balancing the cocoa, but I would be tempted to remove some of the flour, but perhaps only half of the amount of cocoa you are adding.

Also, my research also tells me that electric donut makers are trash, but bread machines can be useful for making the dough.

aderack · Posts: 5018

See, I live in San Francisco. I'm not kidding when I say THERE ARE NO FUCKING DOUGHNUTS IN THIS CITY. No good ones, anyway. This astounds me.

Apparently doughnuts are mostly a Northeastern thing. Like everything good and culturally-relevant in this country. So if I want a cruller, I have to make it myself.

Besides. I like to make food.

all monsters · Posts: 144

aderack wrote:

See, I live in San Francisco. I'm not kidding when I say THERE ARE NO FUCKING DOUGHNUTS IN THIS CITY. No good ones, anyway. This astounds me.

I noticed this too.

I ate an Australian donut for the first time since I've been back in the country this morning, and it was awful.

What is the Canadian donut scene supposed to be like?

butters4life · Posts: 255

having never eaten a doughnut from a country other than Australia may i ask what i am missing out on? What do other doughnuts have that the ones i have grown around seemingly lack?

aderack · Posts: 5018

Love?

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

jutla, a wrote:

I ate a doughnut once.

Oh dear lord don't tell me you actually registered that screen name you dog you.

As for donuts, I think I might get some crullers from the local donut shop here.

I guess that doesn't really help you.

Moose · Posts: 6

butters4life wrote:

having never eaten a doughnut from a country other than Australia may i ask what i am missing out on? What do other doughnuts have that the ones i have grown around seemingly lack?

Doughnuts in the UK certainly look healthier than the ones I've seen in other countries.

They probably aren't, though.

shnozlak · Posts: 704

unless cocoa powder can like melt or cross into the ethereal plane when heated it sould take the place of the flower no? If you dont reduce the flower youd increase the dryness and the mass of the item. Get a "fry daddy" I have a smaller model and it works great.

ryan · Posts: 297

I do wish I could mail you a Nelson's doughnut, aderack. I have yet to find a place that sells a tastier treat than our own Nelson's - though Delicious, with its clone-like flavor and 80% off buy-one-get-one-free-after-three sale, is a strong contender.

Toups, you ever been to Lake Charles? Shaper? They'll tell you..go ahead, tell the man.

Stormover · Posts: 34

I ate a doughnut, but now that I think of it, I'm not sure it was really that. Now I'ts creepy. No ? Forget it.

Victor · Posts: 125

shnozlak wrote:

unless cocoa powder can like melt or cross into the ethereal plane when heated it sould take the place of the flower no? If you dont reduce the flower youd increase the dryness and the mass of the item. Get a "fry daddy" I have a smaller model and it works great.

The Fry Daddy is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

Also. Seriously. Don't make the things of chocolate, glaze them with chocolate, I'm serious.

Buy a pair of chopsticks. Hell, fuck that. Don't buy that shit, at all.

Jesse · Posts: 214

You guys are aware of the secret donut recipe that uses potato and whatnot, right? If not, I'll find links of folks I know making them.

Legal Step · Posts: 1030

According to froogle people search for donut makers all the time. I hope that helps.

Note the kind you use at home, not the people who do it professionally!

the blueberry hill · Posts: 458

all monsters wrote:

I ate an Australian donut for the first time since I've been back in the country this morning, and it was awful.

Where was the donut from? It sounds like a very general comment, and you also have me scared. Don't taint my love.

aderack · Posts: 5018

shnozlak wrote:

unless cocoa powder can like melt or cross into the ethereal plane when heated it sould take the place of the flower no?

That's my line of reasoning, yes. Just wanted a second opinion.

all monsters · Posts: 144

No need to worry, that comment wasn't supposed to be as sweeping as it turned out. I'm just disappointed that the bakery near my new house makes terrible donuts. I had high hopes.

the blueberry hill · Posts: 458

all monsters wrote:

I had high hopes.

Ah yes!

I' not so fussy when I have the munchies. I also have a great bakery nearby, hidden buy pap like Baker's Delight, and crooks like Sunbeam Cakes.

the blueberry hill · Posts: 458

My dough is resting as I type, I'll go and check it in another 10 minutes.

Problem is, I forgot to add the eggs. I hope they are still edible.

ReroRero · Posts: 2148

I get my doughnuts from DCM but only because it is roughly a minutes walk away from me. So I can have hot doughnuts all day until they stop making them at 5 p.m. I also have a Donut King situated 20 seconds away from DCM. I like the cinnamon ones, especially when they are hot enough to burn my fingers. And you get a free doghnut with every shake you buy from DCM.

I find watching the machine making doughnuts to be very relaxing.

GrimSweeper · Posts: 530

Canada has Tim Horton's and a whole host of other store chains that cater towards donut lovers. I've been satisfied with the 'shit brick' I usually get from them (see: Walnut Crunch).

FortNinety · Posts: 4591

aderack wrote:

See, I live in San Francisco. I'm not kidding when I say THERE ARE NO FUCKING DOUGHNUTS IN THIS CITY. No good ones, anyway. This astounds me.

Seriously? Cuz I've been wanting to move to San Fran for a while now, and that would be a serious blow to such plans.

I mean... not even a Krispy Kreme?

aderack · Posts: 5018

Not that I've seen.

And those aren't doughnuts anyway. They're... confections.

Mr Stegosaurus · Posts: 206

The actual city of San Francisco doesn't have any. Neither does Oakland.

Are you willing to jackass to Union City? No? How about Daly City? Pinole? You can find Krispy Kremes in a lot of supermarkets around here, then. It's not the same, I know.

We are a donut loving people, but a very sad one.

It's okay to call it "San Fran" only if you know it's obnoxious, and are making fun of the city for having such a stupid nickname.

I have a donut fiend friend who might know a good secret donut place, but he's in the middle of his three day lawyerin' exam, so that'll have to wait.

dhex · Posts: 2963

krispy kreme sucks.

i thought LA and california in general was filled with ambitious cambodian donut makers?

anyway, if you have a large pot and vegetable oil, you can make donuts. surely they have large pots in SF?

st1nky187 · Posts: 181

Have I told you guys about my friend Doug H. Nuts? Or his cousin Don Uts? Those guys wrote the book on this here shit.

You can't get a doughnut at a bakery out there? What do the people eat with their medical marijuana?

I think my mom made dougnuts once and used a pot, despite the fact that we do indeed have a deep fryer.

hipkondo · Posts: 206

GrimSweeper wrote:

Canada has Tim Horton's and a whole host of other store chains that cater towards donut lovers. I've been satisfied with the 'shit brick' I usually get from them (see: Walnut Crunch).

Timmy Ho's!

That's where the after, after party is held, see.

aderack · Posts: 5018

Big pots and oil: that's what this thread started as a discussion of, kind of.

There are doughnuts mind. Just no good doughnuts. And no doughnut stores, as-such. That I've witnessed.

A good alternative for SF is just to refer to it as "The Bay Area". If you need to get specfic, you call it "The City" -- to differentiate SF from, say, Burlingame.

(Where, you ask? Yes, I say.)

oneEIGHTkevin · Posts: 465

When you make doughnuts they are supposed to float on top of the oil and not actually submerge right? If you don't use a deep fryer and just use a shallow pan, will the fact that the doughnut is just sitting on the pan fuck it up?

I used to have a deep fryer and that shit was messy as fuck. I think I'm happier without it.

I know of a good doughnut place though, so I'll probably just keep buying those. They have a giant doughnut shaped like a cock. I'll get that one.

aderack · Posts: 5018

That sounds like a cruller!

Maybe!

Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

Mr Stegosaurus wrote:

I have a donut fiend friend who might know a good secret donut place, but he's in the middle of his three day lawyerin' exam, so that'll have to wait.

Post 'em if you got 'em. When he's done, of course.

Zartan · Posts: 84

Dunkin Donuts needs to spread as well as bring back the cruller.

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

ryan wrote:

Toups, you ever been to Lake Charles? Shaper? They'll tell you..go ahead, tell the man.

I've never had donuts anywhere in Lake Charles. In fact my Lake Chuck experience is sadly limited.

I'm a Meche's man, myself. Though I can only stomache two or three of their glazed donuts fresh. Their king cakes are great, because they are basically giant donuts.

chazumaru* · Posts: 480

aderack wrote:

A good alternative for SF is just to refer to it as "The Bay Area". If you need to get specfic, you call it "The City" -- to differentiate SF from, say, Burlingame.

(Where, you ask? Yes, I say.)

What about "Frisco" ? Isn't that hip anymore ? Brandon looked at me weirdly when I called Frisco "Frisco" in front of him, but I know he ain't a really friscopolitan.

yellowlightman · Posts: 359

chazumaru* wrote:

What about "Frisco" ? Isn't that hip anymore ? Brandon looked at me weirdly when I called Frisco "Frisco" in front of him, but I know he ain't a really friscopolitan.

I was under the impression anything other than "San Francisco" or "the city" was frowned upon by San Franciscans. At least that's what my parents used to tell me, and they haven't lived there since the early 80's.

Kappuru · Posts: 492

What about the song "'Cisco!"

I once saw a tiny japanese girl do this song, karaoke.

The song is one long guitar solo/breakdown, with shouts of "cisco" every 30 seconds. That's it.

Does anyone say "'cisco?"

ubik · Posts: 44

You need a deep fat fryer! I discovered this in high school, when we had to make donuts in Home Economics - the best ones I ever tasted, not just because I never put sugar on them.

Forget what the recipie was, but it should be easy to get a recipie from anywhere - what makes the diff. for me re: donuts is - they have to be deep fried, and be hot or warm, and not have anything added to them. The ingredients are going to be pretty standard, and you'll need to find out which ratios taste best for you. Fryers are cheap these days. And you can do tempura in them, as well as chips, if you're into it.

aderack · Posts: 5018

chazumaru* wrote:

What about "Frisco" ? Isn't that hip anymore ? Brandon looked at me weirdly when I called Frisco "Frisco" in front of him, but I know he ain't a really friscopolitan.

It's like calling Boston "Bean Town": something no one would ever do unless he was from elsewhere and didn't know enough not to.

dhex · Posts: 2963

you don't really need a deep fat fryer. veggie oil has a low enough smoking point, and you're only going to be making them occassionally.

i find it hard to believe you can't find a decent donut; then again, i met someone from ohio who called bagels "bag-elz" and said bagels from brooklyn weren't as good as lenders from a bag.

we then killed and ate her, determining that semi-literate retards from the midwest are less tasty than pbr-tards from williamsburg by way of delaware.

Kappuru · Posts: 492

euch. PBR.

I don't drink that stuff, EVER. Even if it's the only beer at the party.
Had it once on tap. Wasn't as bad as the cans, but still pretty awful.

the blueberry hill · Posts: 458

ubik wrote:

You need a deep fat fryer! I discovered this in high school, when we had to make donuts in Home Economics - the best ones I ever tasted, not just because I never put sugar on them.

Forget what the recipie was, but it should be easy to get a recipie from anywhere - what makes the diff. for me re: donuts is - they have to be deep fried, and be hot or warm, and not have anything added to them. The ingredients are going to be pretty standard, and you'll need to find out which ratios taste best for you. Fryers are cheap these days. And you can do tempura in them, as well as chips, if you're into it.

You crazy whore. You should put icecream on them. Good vanilla (with buttermilk) icecream.

haircute · Posts: 928

Kappuru wrote:

euch. PBR.

I don't drink that stuff, EVER. Even if it's the only beer at the party.
Had it once on tap. Wasn't as bad as the cans, but still pretty awful.

Man, PBR isn't that bad. Might be because right now I'm on #20. Very good.

I'm glad the forums are back up. I guess I didn't need to say that.

Karoshi · Posts: 968

There's a practically all-night Krispy Kreme about 3 miles down the road from my neighborhood.
Around 4am you can smell them beauties around the mall, amusement park (Sesame Place), and surrounding business complex.
I love the coffee there. It's as if they use kruellers for the filters.

And boston creme:
Were it morally acceptable i'd freebase those motherfuckers.

aderack · Posts: 5018

dhex wrote:

i find it hard to believe you can't find a decent donut; then again, i met someone from ohio who called bagels "bag-elz" and said bagels from brooklyn weren't as good as lenders from a bag.

Oddly, not too hard to find a passable bagel here. Huge, crusty things.

Yeah, I'll try out the doughnut experiment this weekend maybe?

ubik · Posts: 44

You do need a deep fat fryer, I didn't say anything about not using vegetable oil. They don't taste right, like the hot donuts availible from some fayres etc, unless you use the same cooking equipment as they do.

And please, to that wannabe-rude-boy there with their wee act thinking we are mates so much that you can call me names and disguise it as a friend thing, don't act it. You'd never be able to talk that way to me in actual real-life without everyone seeing what a put-on fake you are with that, plus you'd feel about the size of your small toes toenail if you even thought to say that to me in actual offline reality, the only reality that counts for anything at all.

Harsh? Quick to re-act!? mais non - with such an attitude that you are cultivating there, it's imperative in the extreme that I cut you down to size asap. Can't have anyone thinking that way about me, that's where you amp up your false magical powers from!

all in your wee head

dhex · Posts: 2963

1) you don't need a deep fat fryer. donuts don't need to fry long enough to have a hot constant temperature matter, unlike say fried chicken, etc. and eating warm donuts is for barbarians.

2) huh?

FortNinety · Posts: 4591

dhex wrote:

i find it hard to believe you can't find a decent donut; then again, i met someone from ohio who called bagels "bag-elz" and said bagels from brooklyn weren't as good as lenders from a bag.

As much as I bitch about the hot dogs and pizza here in New York, I have to admit, there's no better place to get bagels. And I've had plenty of really good local varieties of dounts as well.

aderack · Posts: 5018

ubik wrote:

And please, to that wannabe-rude-boy there with their wee act thinking we are mates so much that you can call me names and disguise it as a friend thing, don't act it.

Yikes.

...

I had a dream last night, that Dunkin' Donuts set up a new shop near the Caltrain terminal; Agnes and I and I think maybe Shep and Agnes's sister went in, looking for evidence of the cruller catastrophe. Turns out they did have crullers -- just no chocolate or plain glazed ones. Instead, they had plain crullers that were completely encased in icky chocolate frosting.

We tried to get some doughnuts. The clerk wasn't very attentive; she asked us whether we wanted some [forgotten, probably made-up euphemism for weed], then giggled and wandered away. Then a set of twin old ladies came by and were unhelpful in their own odd way. So I decided to just help myself to the doughnuts and leave the payment on the counter.

Then I woke up. Without doughnuts.

I'll make some this weekend, if I've time around a couple of articles.