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108 · Posts: 2600

We have a games news thread, though not a current events one.

So yeah.

Guitar tab websites under attack. Basically they're calling guitar tab-sharing copyright infringement. What the fuck.

Et cetera.

Sawtooth · Posts: 2350

i heard that most of those tabs are incorrect, anyway.

Sub · Posts: 696

I'm starting to think that the music industry is just trolling, now.

108 · Posts: 2600

Sawtooth wrote:

i heard that most of those tabs are incorrect, anyway.

It's the thought that counts, you know.

And if kids can't learn to play the song correctly after following the rough sketches offered on tab sites, then they

A.) probably don't have the imagination / creativity to play guitar or write their own songs

or

B.) don't really like the song they're trying to play enough to cover it sincerely.

that about covers it!!

I believe calling tabs copyright infringement is kind of silly. Sooner or later America is going to form a new government agency called the Random Shit Justification Fighters. You can pick up the phone and dial 913 and say, "Hey, this guy I know, this real bastardly prick, takes bubble baths, and my aunt also takes bubble baths, and she was born like way before him -- can you go kill the son of a bitch?" And the cold voice on the other side will say, "Okay."

Sooner or later, it's going to be the Cultural Revolution all over again. This time, in America.

Also, just a tidbit: it's now considered copyright infringement to publicly quote Japanese song lyrics anywhere without explicit (paid) written permission, in any context, even if you're not making a profit. So if a sadistic enough lawyer runs across your blog in which you bemoan your boyfriend's failure to call you on the phone with some well chosen pop lyrics, you can be served a cease-and-desist form letter like that. And if you don't have an email address on the site -- they will mail a formal letter to the host and have you shut down.

If I was making this up, I'd call myself a liar!!

Sawtooth · Posts: 2350

108 wrote:

Sawtooth wrote:

i heard that most of those tabs are incorrect, anyway.

It's the thought that counts, you know.

And if kids can't learn to play the song correctly after following the rough sketches offered on tab sites, then they

A.) probably don't have the imagination / creativity to play guitar or write their own songs

or

B.) don't really like the song they're trying to play enough to cover it sincerely.

True enough!

Isn't this closer to the original spirit of copyright law than anything involving this whole filesharing thingy of the past few years? Because while it's probably just the music industry being a bunch of stuffy greedy hardasses, there could be a concern with misrepresenting the works on the site.

Not that I'm fond of copyright law as it is, anyway.

Hey! I hear they have a cure for cancer now!

108 · Posts: 2600

Sawtooth wrote:

108 wrote:

Sawtooth wrote:

i heard that most of those tabs are incorrect, anyway.

It's the thought that counts, you know.

And if kids can't learn to play the song correctly after following the rough sketches offered on tab sites, then they

A.) probably don't have the imagination / creativity to play guitar or write their own songs

or

B.) don't really like the song they're trying to play enough to cover it sincerely.

True enough!

Isn't this closer to the original spirit of copyright law than anything involving this whole filesharing thingy of the past few years? Because while it's probably just the music industry being a bunch of stuffy greedy hardasses, there could be a concern with misrepresenting the works on the site.

This highlights what might be a solution -- if the websites just change the sorting method of the files, so that "Stairway to Heaven" is "progressions" "riffs" and/or "licks" or "fills" "used in such songs as 'Stairway to Heaven'", trusting the user to arrange it on their own, through practice. It could work.

sawtooth wrote:

Hey! I hear they have a cure for cancer now!

Excitement! Let's hope a thoroughly tested treatment is ready by the time I get cancer! They say everyone gets it, you know. It's just a matter of when, and what flavor. I don't want to have to get chemotherapy or radiation therapy. That would be too uncomfortable.

Just four posts into our current events thread, and already we've found a cure for cancer. You, sir, might be up for a Nobel Prize this year!!

brainiac · Posts: 941

108 wrote:

Also, just a tidbit: it's now considered copyright infringement to publicly quote Japanese song lyrics anywhere without explicit (paid) written permission, in any context, even if you're not making a profit.

alas, poor karyorickaoke!

ReroRero · Posts: 2148

Jesse Pintado died.

:_(

108 · Posts: 2600

brainiac wrote:

108 wrote:

Also, just a tidbit: it's now considered copyright infringement to publicly quote Japanese song lyrics anywhere without explicit (paid) written permission, in any context, even if you're not making a profit.

alas, poor karyorickaoke!

actually!!

notice all karaoke machines in all karaoke parlors in japan have a "brand" name on it -- that "brand" is, actually, basically the name of the firm that has 15 people devoted to putting together stock video footage and encoding songs and 2,000 people devoted to copy and faxing release forms to send record companies.

and then, the parlors themselves are so expensive.

so yes, the royalties system has been in place as regards karaoke for years now.

brainiac · Posts: 941

108 wrote:

so yes, the royalties system has been in place as regards karaoke for years now.

oh. what i meant was... are the people singing the songs technically permitted. well. karaoke royalties probably also cover performance rights as well.

ANYWAY.

...

yeah.

Psiga · Posts: 3990

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,71665-0.html?tw=wn_index_2
Huzzah, new supersonic passenger planes are finally ready for primetime.

And I'll repost this for 108:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5052212.stm
Gardenia extract to treat type 2 diabetes? Whodathunkit.

Psiga · Posts: 3990

NEWSLFASH: The screen printing on my favorite t-shirt is starting to crack.

Kazu · Posts: 894

Windows DRM cracked ... but you need at least one file to let that tool work.
Nevertheless, good to know that there is a cure for that type of cancer, too.

Takashi · Posts: 820

Kazu wrote:

Just four posts into our current events thread, and already we've found a cure for cancer. You, sir, might be up for a Nobel Prize this year!!

Although I'm still wondering if giving "kill"-instructions to cells like that (even if they say that it works just fine) is a good idea.

Well, when the option is either that or EAT ELECTRIC DEATH, the choice seems rather easy.

Karoshi · Posts: 968

Last night Kofi Annan shook his finger at both Israel and Hezbollah for not "living up to key sections of hte ceasefire resolution".

Last month(I think mid July) Switzerland briefly stopped being neutral to tell Isreal to calm down.

What I dont understand is why when Israel captures members of Hammas or Hezbollah they feel perfectly justified in keeping "POWs" (many of whom are women and some even children), but when its the other way around Israel starts rolling tanks through streets to "rescue hostages." And yes, there is a difference between someone with a suicide belt caught border crossing and someone kidnapped within the borders of their own country.

Now granted, Hammas/Hezbollah do use unconventional warfare, but is what Israel does that much better? I'm not going all out and claiming Israel uses terrorism. Israel has better equipment because they are a sovereign nation who have been fighting for their survival decade after decade. They are known for targeting civilian infastructre, but its acceptable because they do it with multimillion dollar military equipment instead of home made bombs. Not only that, but since Hammas has been democratically elected into power Israel, along with help from the US, has been systematically cutting off international aid to Palestine (political terrorism?) to effectively starve them out of power. Hammas has had to resort to paying state workers in cash smuggled in from other Arab countries because of Israel and the US's actions.

I dont agree with what either side is doing here. To me it really looks like Israel was waiting for a small infraction to take out Hammas. At the same time the idea that Israel should give into blackmail just pisses me off.

I'm sure there are people on this board who are more abreast of the situation than I am.

Psiga · Posts: 3990

Karoshi wrote:

Now granted, [side A] do use [some specific kind of] warfare, but is what [side B] does that much better?

Isn't this just war in general? Each side justifies their means because they are so offended by the other side's means; neither side willing to accept responsibility for doing basically the same thing to eachother, back and forth.

Karoshi · Posts: 968

BEIJING - A woman in Hohhot, the capital of north China's Inner Mongolia region, crashed her car while giving her dog a driving lesson, the official Xinhua News Agency said Monday.

No injuries were reported although both vehicles were slightly damaged, it said.

The woman, identified only be her surname, Li, said her dog "was fond of crouching on the steering wheel and often watched her drive," according to Xinhua.

"She thought she would let the dog 'have a try' while she operated the accelerator and brake," the report said. "They did not make it far before crashing into an oncoming car."

Xinhua did not say what kind of dog or vehicles were involved but Li paid for repairs.

GcDiaz · Posts: 1057

Karoshi wrote:

Last night Kofi Annan shook his finger at both Israel and Hezbollah for not "living up to key sections of hte ceasefire resolution".

Last month(I think mid July) Switzerland briefly stopped being neutral to tell Isreal to calm down.

What I dont understand is why when Israel captures members of Hammas or Hezbollah they feel perfectly justified in keeping "POWs" (many of whom are women and some even children), but when its the other way around Israel starts rolling tanks through streets to "rescue hostages." And yes, there is a difference between someone with a suicide belt caught border crossing and someone kidnapped within the borders of their own country.

Now granted, Hammas/Hezbollah do use unconventional warfare, but is what Israel does that much better? I'm not going all out and claiming Israel uses terrorism. Israel has better equipment because they are a sovereign nation who have been fighting for their survival decade after decade. They are known for targeting civilian infastructre, but its acceptable because they do it with multimillion dollar military equipment instead of home made bombs. Not only that, but since Hammas has been democratically elected into power Israel, along with help from the US, has been systematically cutting off international aid to Palestine (political terrorism?) to effectively starve them out of power. Hammas has had to resort to paying state workers in cash smuggled in from other Arab countries because of Israel and the US's actions.

I dont agree with what either side is doing here. To me it really looks like Israel was waiting for a small infraction to take out Hammas. At the same time the idea that Israel should give into blackmail just pisses me off.

I'm sure there are people on this board who are more abreast of the situation than I am.

I keep telling you people, this was the PERFECT opportunity for Israel and HAMAS/Hezbollah/whoever-the-fuck to finally go to it and settle this shit once and for all. But no, they're right back where they started, and the poking and prodding will continue for years (nay, decades) to come.

When it comes to war, you fight it like you mean it or not at all.

dmauro · Posts: 933

Oh god, we were so close to it being a reality.

Wilkes · Posts: 1603

Psiga wrote:

NEWSLFASH: The screen printing on my favorite t-shirt is starting to crack.

you should have shopped local

boooo

GcDiaz · Posts: 1057

I recently found this videoblog site run by Michelle Malkin, she of the immigrant features and PATRIOT leanings. I gotta say, they make more sense than not. Right now they're all over the Lebanese "ambulance strikes".

James · Posts: 1735

108 wrote:

A.) probably don't have the imagination / creativity to play guitar or write their own song!

Case in point: When The Brat Becomes A Bastard

Brock · Posts: 421

Apparently that Warren Jeffs guy was caught last night in a routine traffic stop, ending any vigilante's hopes at getting that huge reward the FBI had out for capturing him.

Psiga · Posts: 3990

Wilkes wrote:

Psiga wrote:

NEWSLFASH: The screen printing on my favorite t-shirt is starting to crack.

you should have shopped local

boooo

I got it at the CES, at Google's booth. It's a rare shirt which they don't sell on any Google-related online stores. The most I can hope for is that maybe a size S would show up on ebay or something.

Judge Ito · Posts: 284

Current event: This thread is not taking off.

GcDiaz · Posts: 1057

That says a lot, doesn't it?

Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

Michelle Malkin is an insane hosebeast.

108 · Posts: 2600

Judge Ito wrote:

Current event: This thread is not taking off.

I blame the world, for not being exciting enough!!

Karoshi · Posts: 968

Europe's First Lunar Mission Ends With a Bang
Scientists Study Cloud of Dust After Planned Crash Into Moon
By DAVID McHUGH, AP

DARMSTADT, Germany (Sept. 3) - Europe's first spacecraft to the moon ended its three-year mission Sunday with a planned crash, hitting its target after ground controllers had to maneuver it around a looming crater rim.

The SMART-1 spacecraft slammed into volcanic plain called the Lake of Excellence at 1 1/4 miles per second right on time. The impact was captured by observers on Earth, and scientists hoped the resulting cloud of dust and debris would provide clues to the geologic composition of the site.

"That's it - we are in the Lake of Excellence," said spacecraft operations chief Octavio Camino as applause broke out in the European Space Agency's mission control center in Darmstadt, Germany. "We have landed."

Minutes later, a video screen on the control room wall showed an image of the bright flash from the impact. The infrared image was captured by the Canada France Hawaii Telescope on Mount Kea, in Hawaii.

"It was a great mission and a great success and now it's over," said mission manager Gerhard Schwehm.

During its months in orbit around the moon, the spacecraft scanned the lunar surface from orbit and took high-resolution pictures. But its primary mission was testing a new, efficient, ion propulsion system that officials hope to use on future interplanetary missions, including the BepiColombo mission to Mercury slated for 2013.

SMART-1 was launched into Earth's orbit by an Ariane-5 booster rocket from Kourou, French Guiana, in September 2003. It used its ion engine to slowly raise its orbit over 14 months until the moon's gravity grabbed it.

The engine, which uses electricity from the craft's solar panels to produce a stream of charged particles called ions, generates only small amounts of thrust but only needed 176 pounds of xenon fuel.

Ground controllers learned to adjust to the slow but continuous acceleration from the ion engine, requiring them to check the craft's course more often in contrast to the one-time push from a rocket. U.S. astronauts on Apollo missions flew to the moon in just three days, launched by giant Saturn-V rockets.

The craft's X-ray and infrared spectrometers have gathered information about the moon's geology that scientists hope will advance their knowledge about how the moon's surface evolved and test theories about how the moon came into being.Although the moon has been explored by astronauts in several places, the new data covers the moon's surface as a whole.

On Saturday, mission controllers had to raise the craft's orbit by 2,000 feet to avoid hitting a crater rim on final approach. Had the orbit not been raised the craft would have crashed one orbit too soon, making the impact difficult or impossible to observe.

The maneuver had to be carried out quickly in the early hours of Saturday, and operations chief Camino acknowledged that "we were under some stress."

SMART-1, a cube measuring roughly a yard on each side, took the long way to the moon - more than 62 million miles instead of the direct route of 217,000 to 250,000 miles. But ESA did it for a relatively cheap $140 million.

The spacecraft also been taking high-resolution pictures of the surface with a miniaturized camera, sending back its last close-up images just minutes before the impact.

GcDiaz · Posts: 1057

I laughed until I realized it was deliberate. Only, if the craft is now smashed at the bottom of the crater, how do they plan to collect the moon dust debris?

GcDiaz · Posts: 1057

Scratchmonkey wrote:

Michelle Malkin is an insane hosebeast.

I find her rather comely, myself. I don't listen to her opinions, but she does present a mean fact on occasion.

Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

I think they're going to analyze the moon dust by doing telescopic analysis of the dust cloud. You can get a suprising amount of data that way.

And Malkin can look as comely as she wants, she's still a loon.

Psiga · Posts: 3990

Um, current event: Aggasi retires, Irwin dies, America gets amazingly drunk.

108 · Posts: 2600

Aggasi retired? Again?

The Steve Irwin / Crocodile Hunter story:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html

me and toups wrote:

Andrew: that's sad
man
killed in a freak accident, huh
I guess that's the only way for a guy like him to go
me: yeah, no other way
i wouldnt call it a "freak accident," though
Andrew: man
me: i'm sure he was . .. agitating the stingray in some way
Andrew: stingray barb through the chest
yeah
well no shit
me: i mean, that's what he did for money -- agitated dangerous animals
Andrew: In an sad twist, it has been reported that his new documentary was aimed at demystifying the stingray.
man
me: yeah
perhaps the sadder truth is
in the first comment on that page
a polite "rest in peace"
someone uses an internet smiley
": ("
Andrew: man
how's that for an epitath
"he died as he lived: ;_; "
me: also, when did "rest in peace" become a POLITE thing to say?
wasnt "RIP" always kind of . . . a dark and mean thing to say?

big questions raised here!!

ReroRero · Posts: 2148

This is sad but now I have something to draw today.

the drunken samurai · Posts: 4645

i got drunk tonight!

ReroRero · Posts: 2148

Where the fuck have you been?

the drunken samurai · Posts: 4645

ReroRero wrote:

Where the fuck have you been?

my internet is out and i need a job

in between that ive dont a bit of drinkin'

yknow :wink:

ReroRero · Posts: 2148

Too drunk to work a computer then.

the drunken samurai · Posts: 4645

nah im good

ReroRero · Posts: 2148

That's an optical drive not a drink holder. TAB will not dispense beverages from legacy drives.

the drunken samurai · Posts: 4645

ah if only...

Karoshi · Posts: 968

Lotus made a completely electric car what goes from 0-60 in 4 seconds.
It's called the Tesla.

http://www.teslamotors.com

I've never said this about a car but: I WANT IT.

aderack · Posts: 5018

They should get Coily for a mascot.

extralife · Posts: 3316

Karoshi wrote:

Lotus made a completely electric car what goes from 0-60

I just want to post to say how much I love that particular use of the word "what"

Lestrade · Posts: 817

Karoshi wrote:

Lotus made a completely electric car what goes from 0-60 in 4 seconds.
It's called the Tesla.

http://www.teslamotors.com

I've never said this about a car but: I WANT IT.

Shit yes. I refuse to buy a car until I can get a good hybrid or electice. Oh, and finish getting my license. That being said, this = yes.

dhex · Posts: 2963

108 · Posts: 2600

dhex wrote:

Michelle Malkin is insane.

and unlike coulter she's not funny at all.

i didn't know who she was so i youtubed her just now.

man she reminds me of this girl i tried to have sex with (and then eventually succeeded) in college. my lord. holy shit.

holy lord.

Psiga · Posts: 3990

If this is the same girl I'm thinking of, then yeah, I just had a memory flashback of a TV sketch comedian who did this skit where he wrote a love letter to her about how he'd domesticate her and she'd love it. It went on and on, and was pretty great.

108 · Posts: 2600

Psiga wrote:

If this is the same girl I'm thinking of, then yeah, I just had a memory flashback of a TV sketch comedian who did this skit where he wrote a love letter to her about how he'd domesticate her and she'd love it. It went on and on, and was pretty great.

Here she is.

Say what you will about her being nuts and humorless and all that, though I do reckon she is a reasonably intelligent girl in a position of some vague power; though she might have went wrong somewhere down the line and though she might support one or two things not perfectly related to her fundamentals, to the point where it raises the question of who told her to care about that, for the most part, she seems pretty solid. She has things she believes in and is eolquent and elegant enough to go somewhere and get mad about them in places people can see her and laugh at her. Though something about her appearance suggests to me The World's Most Gorgeous Muppet, seeing her laugh and knowing why she's laughing gives me a hunch that she approaches sex the way a flaming horse approaches a brick wall, and so I have to give her a thumbs-up.