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Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

I've seen more and more people saying that they'd love to see what this game would look like with more powerful technology; I can understand this as I really want to see what Ueda can do with next-generation technology. Given what he's produced already, it should be fantastic.

I don't want to see Shadow with next-generation technology because, well, it's part of the design of the game. Part of the reason that it gives the sense of being a Seventh Seal or a Dr. Caligari are the obvious technological problems. In the sense that an emulated version of a game is not the same as the original, a graphical upgrade of Shadow would be a different game, a different experience.

I'm being too black-and-white by saying "I don't want to see...". If such a game existed, I would buy it and play it and probably enjoy it. I certainly don't want games to continue to look like PS2 games. I just don't think a graphically-updated version would be the same experience. (Which is probably worth responding to with a "duh".)

Westacular · Posts: 571

Right. ("Duh"?) It would be a different experience ... which is sorta the point. I am intrigued by the idea of an experience that carries the spirit of the game -- and Ico before it -- and further removes the technological problems.

I don't want the same game over again; that would be a waste of Ueda's time. What I want is Ueda to keep making games! And if he can fix/avoid some of these issues while he's at it, it would be much appreciated!

Which, I think is what you're saying also. So let's return to the real question.

Tim, what on Earth is Sony paying you to actually do? I mean this in the most kindly curious way.

extralife · Posts: 3316

Westacular wrote:

Tim, what on Earth is Sony paying you to actually do? I mean this in the most kindly curious way.

He's a viral marketer. You think that PSP shit on lik-sang was for fun?

108 · Posts: 2600

extralife wrote:

Westacular wrote:

Tim, what on Earth is Sony paying you to actually do? I mean this in the most kindly curious way.

He's a viral marketer. You think that PSP shit on lik-sang was for fun?

Actually, that was for MONEY.

And they threw an iPod in with the deal.

I will cover the PS3 launch for them, too!

And I'm not a viral marketer. I'm . . . something much more boring.

It's fun, though!

See this post??!!

I'm writing it from "WORK"!!

chameleoneel · Posts: 1238

first things first before i forget--HeadTeeth. that's my name for one of the Colossi.

so, I like the review, though its not as tight as some of your other reviews. like, i just don't think you talked about SoC itself, enough. the review could have and should have been longer (heheh), I'm totally fine with and glad that you did all of the rambling and comparison that you did, but i think that you concentrated on too much of what you wanted from the game, and not so much the game itself.

its a PS2 man, the graphics can't get any better(on a technically, features, pixel shader, anti aliasing, 2,000 dollar PC or xbox 360 level). art direction, that is what we need to pay attention to, art direction is what console games have in spades, and PC games usually don't (HL2 included in the don't pile, except for the last chunk of the game, which looks considerably better than the whole game before it). art direction is what i think reviewers should concentrate on, and not so much the graphics themselves. F.E.A.R. is another great example, probably the most graphically demanding game on your hardware features-wise, but the art assets are generally pretty poor. Swat 4 manages to look basically as good, despite a less feature rich graphics engine--because it's art assets and art direction are something F.E.A.R. needs to read up on. so yeah, look at art direction and what the game does do, and not so much what you wish for, cuz in the end, its a PS2, it probably can't deliver on all of your wants--graphically speaking, I understand what you want, but dood....

...mechanically though, yeah, they could have tightened up the collision and made the crawling animation transitions a smidge smoother so you don't get disoriented and end up diagonally upside down or whatever.

things that realy bothered me about the game-- the damn hints, they should never have been in there, or should have been summonable if needed, cuz they significantly ruined my experience with more than a couple of Colossi.

and the camera, should have been Jak 2 and 3 style, completely user controlled, but somehow smart with automaticness to it. I hated the fact that the camera would always swing back behind Wander no matter what (also, i played the entire game without knowing about the lock on feature) but still, I want my own choosable view of the action, and my own custom lock-on ala MGS3 (I love you Kojima).

despite those problems, i fuckin loved that game (SoC). seriously. so, now that i'm thinking about it, we ended up in the same spot i guess, yeah we both have some problems with the game, but on the whole, its magnificient and awesome and shit. so yeah, "Highest recommendation".

P.S. how do i get an avatar? I can't figure out how to load one

Szczepaniak · Posts: 815

So... This is like the first proper Colossus topic I found, whilst doing a search.

Anyway, I am able to buy the Chinese language version for only £8 new.

But I need to know... is there much dialogue/text in here? Will the game be RUINED if I don't play it in English?

Is it worth my paying like £20 more, maybe even waiting another month or two, just to play it in English? Or should I buy it RIGHT now, for £8, in Japanese/Chinese?

It's your call Insert Credit, make this decision for me.

EDIT:
I may as well also reveal, it's Play-Asia kids. Go there is you seek cheap Cologne. And by Cologne, I mean Colossus.

boojiboy7 · Posts: 1104

Provided you acn play imports, i don't really see a reason not to. I read somewheres that the game has english subtitles. And a lot of people have commented that having no subtitles would have made the fights a lot cooler. Personally, I say go for it.

username · Posts: 186

The game might actually be better if you couldn't read it, although it might get confusing near the end briefly.

ste · Posts: 17

Why are all your reviews very pretentious and thirty pages too long? Still, props for not subtly mentioning how you're living the nerd dream by residing in Japan for this one, or going off into some tangent about getting a burrito out of your microwave (Japanese manufactured of course) for three paragraphs.

Dark Age Iron Savior · Posts: 3148

ste wrote:

Why are all your reviews very pretentious and thirty pages too long? Still, props for not subtly mentioning how you're living the nerd dream by residing in Japan for this one, or going off into some tangent about getting a burrito out of your microwave (Japanese manufactured of course) for three paragraphs.

ste wrote:

I had a lot of fun until 60, that's when it caves in to all the MMORPG cliches. You've not played enough to see where the negative opinions of the game are coming from; playing ~5 hour raids every night is just not doable for 90% of people.

ste · Posts: 17

I don't get it sorry

Rud13 · Posts: 3277

I bet it's because you are from the UK.

Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

Different courses.

For!

108 · Posts: 2600

ste wrote:

Why are all your reviews very pretentious and thirty pages too long? Still, props for not subtly mentioning how you're living the nerd dream by residing in Japan for this one, or going off into some tangent about getting a burrito out of your microwave (Japanese manufactured of course) for three paragraphs.

Fuck you.

smartblue · Posts: 254

:golf clap:

ste · Posts: 17

108 wrote:

ste wrote:

Why are all your reviews very pretentious and thirty pages too long? Still, props for not subtly mentioning how you're living the nerd dream by residing in Japan for this one, or going off into some tangent about getting a burrito out of your microwave (Japanese manufactured of course) for three paragraphs.

Fuck you.

Hey man, i'm just trying to be constructive here. All I can see are sycophants and no actual criticism. Every Tim Rogers review is packed with inane personal anecdotes nobody cares about, attempts to namedrop and reference as much obscure crap westerners don't 'get' and maybe about two lines concerning the actual subject of the review.

It's like the stereotypical basement dweller living the dream, honestly.

chameleoneel · Posts: 1238

ste wrote:

108 wrote:

ste wrote:

Why are all your reviews very pretentious and thirty pages too long? Still, props for not subtly mentioning how you're living the nerd dream by residing in Japan for this one, or going off into some tangent about getting a burrito out of your microwave (Japanese manufactured of course) for three paragraphs.

Fuck you.

Hey man, i'm just trying to be constructive here. All I can see are sycophants and no actual criticism. Every Tim Rogers review is packed with inane personal anecdotes nobody cares about, attempts to namedrop and reference as much obscure crap westerners don't 'get' and maybe about two lines concerning the actual subject of the review.

It's like the stereotypical basement dweller living the dream, honestly.

yawn.

http://www.largeprimenumbers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=771

focus on my third post, starting with the second paragraph.

Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

ste wrote:

Hey man, i'm just trying to be constructive here. All I can see are sycophants and no actual criticism. Every Tim Rogers review is packed with inane personal anecdotes nobody cares about, attempts to namedrop and reference as much obscure crap westerners don't 'get' and maybe about two lines concerning the actual subject of the review.

It's like the stereotypical basement dweller living the dream, honestly.

Well, it's a good thing somebody's being the voice of reason.

Because nobody's ever said anything like this before.

ste · Posts: 17

108 · Posts: 2600

I love PMing people that!
I bet it really creeped you out, didn't it?

the drunken samurai · Posts: 4645

108 wrote:

I love PMing people that!
I bet it really creeped you out, didn't it?

i hope you never do that me,if thats the effect your looking for.

108 · Posts: 2600

I just PMed you again!
Please keep this one secret, dear sir!
It would be oh so embarrassing to my rock-solid reputation if you let these facts out!!

108 · Posts: 2600

the drunken samurai wrote:

108 wrote:

I love PMing people that!
I bet it really creeped you out, didn't it?

i hope you never do that me,if thats the effect your looking for.

Sir, I must say I liked your old avatar better. This one is a bit dumb.

the drunken samurai · Posts: 4645

108 wrote:

the drunken samurai wrote:

108 wrote:

I love PMing people that!
I bet it really creeped you out, didn't it?

i hope you never do that me,if thats the effect your looking for.

Sir, I must say I liked your old avatar better. This one is a bit dumb.

i know,im still shopping around though

chameleoneel · Posts: 1238

i think its cuz, hardgay's skin doesn't look enough like skin in that pic.

it just looks like, beige cotton or something

ste · Posts: 17

yhbt yhl hand

the drunken samurai · Posts: 4645

ste wrote:

yhbt yhl hand

Que?

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

He doesn't have a big enough BULGE.

the drunken samurai · Posts: 4645

Mister Toups wrote:

He doesn't have a big enough BULGE.

im very sorry about that Toups,cause i know how much you like teh BULGE.

Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

ste wrote:

yhbt yhl hand

Speaking as someone who's been on Usenet for well over a decade, this is hilarious.

Christ! What low standards people have these days.

And we all know about people who pre-emptively claim to have "won" something, especially on the Internet.

Watch this turn out to be Kieron Gillen or stabo.

108 · Posts: 2600

OH MY GOD I'M DYING WITH LAUGHTER OVER HERE

Wilkes · Posts: 1603

i went to sleep for, like, a few hours.

and now, this?

the fuck.

i'm switching my old avatar back in. the big version.

Mr. Business · Posts: 1530

ste wrote:

Hey man, i'm just trying to be constructive here. All I can see are sycophants and no actual criticism.

"I may not be able to say all I think; but I am not going to say anything that I do not think. I would rather a thousand times be a free soul in jail than to be a sycophant and coward in the streets."

Rud13 · Posts: 3277

ste wrote:

108 wrote:

ste wrote:

Why are all your reviews very pretentious and thirty pages too long? Still, props for not subtly mentioning how you're living the nerd dream by residing in Japan for this one, or going off into some tangent about getting a burrito out of your microwave (Japanese manufactured of course) for three paragraphs.

Fuck you.

Hey man, i'm just trying to be constructive here. All I can see are sycophants and no actual criticism. Every Tim Rogers review is packed with inane personal anecdotes nobody cares about, attempts to namedrop and reference as much obscure crap westerners don't 'get' and maybe about two lines concerning the actual subject of the review.

"Hey I don't like anything about your writing, please change everything."

winkerwanker · Posts: 2414

hi tim

sup ste

Diplocephalus · Posts: 863

ste wrote:

yhbt yhl hand

lolwhut

Tim's articles give me mental boners. I find them to be quite enjoyable. Usually.

Persona-sama · Posts: 1145

TIM FOR PRESIDENT 2012.

I saw a picture of Tim on 4chan once. Who posted it?

108 · Posts: 2600

Persona-sama wrote:

TIM FOR PRESIDENT 2012.

I saw a picture of Tim on 4chan once. Who posted it?

Was I fucking a supermodel?

In my basement?

While living the dream?!?!?!?

chameleoneel · Posts: 1238

you fucked a supermodel????!!

what's her name?!

[I] must know!

Collective pronoun change by Rud13

extralife · Posts: 3316

chameleoneel wrote:

Collective pronoun change by Rud13

lol rudders edited someone else's post to correct grammar. The internet just died.

Persona-sama · Posts: 1145

I think he changed it more to hide his embarassment and lustful desire of wanting to see TIM'S MASSIVE BOABY.

evnvnv · Posts: 333

dude, ste, i can't believe you went there! This is the INTERNET, man, you CAN'T make fun of tim rogers!

oh god whats going to happen next

Touran · Posts: 49

I was expecting something a little more vicious. The Axe has let me down once again.

Diplocephalus · Posts: 863

Persona-sama wrote:

I saw a picture of Tim on 4chan once. Who posted it?

me

Mr. Mustache · Posts: 551

ste has a pretty neat avatar.

LW Joestar · Posts: 1358

LOL HORSEHEADDAEHESROHHORSEHEADDAE HESROHHORSEHEADDAEHESROHHORSEHEAD DAEHESROHHORSEHEADDAEHESROHHORSEHEAD DAEHESROHHORSEHEADDAEHESROHHORSEHEAD DAEHESROHI'msowitty guyslookatmemakefunofaninternetguy

dhex · Posts: 2963

108 · Posts: 2600

dhex wrote:

that said, what's up with the death thing mr. rogers? its much more effective to pm people "you will live forever in the mind of god" instead. in our cultural universe, being serious about the application of metaphysics is the last frontier of depravity.

Well, see, I'm not serious about it. Because this is the internet, you're not seeing my sarcasm. Well, you are most likely educated enough to suspect sarcasm, though current internet trends are telling you that I'm most likely not being sarcastic, because if I was going to be sarcastic I would have done it years ago. Mentioning God may or may have not been sarcastic last week, though it might end up being the new dead serious next week. It's hard to tell. By settling on death, I'm making it easy for myself, who is, as you may or may not know, the person most worth making things easy for.

God damn this guy next to me eating yogurt. He brought a god damn tub of yogurt in and he's just eating it (breakfast, you see) with his eyes fixed on a turned-off computer monitor.

Man, he looks like he has the IQ of a chihuahua.

aderack · Posts: 5018

That's not fair. I've never seen a chihuahua go near a tub of yogurt.

the drunken samurai · Posts: 4645

im curious now,i must see a pic of that chihuahua guy