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Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

Man, my wife is way too into the elections and is spending all day talking about the various voter frauds taking place over the course of the day, the majority of which seem to be GOP-based attempts to keep minorities from voting.

Oh god, she's turned on the news channels. I might go into work after all.

GcDiaz · Posts: 1057

Scratchmonkey wrote:

Man, my wife is way too into the elections and is spending all day talking about the various voter frauds taking place over the course of the day,

Such as??

showka · Posts: 994

LOL.

Scratchmonkey wrote:

the majority of which seem to be GOP-based attempts to keep minorities from voting.

"Seem?"

Scratchmonkey · Posts: 2229

I'm not getting involved in this nonsense (mainly because it turns into partisan freak-outs at the drop of a hat, which was my original point), I'm just sharing my pain.

dhex · Posts: 2963

voter fraud is a tradition as long and wonderful as democracy itself.

i kind of like preferential balloting myself. it would make behind the scenes fraud more complicated, at least.

showka · Posts: 994

Here's some examples of voter fraud going on today.

The FBI is invistigating complaints that the Republicans in Virginia have been trying to misdirect or confuse people about election day.

Republicans are using robo calls to call people non-stop. The messages announce they want to give the callee information on the Democrat, misleading people into thinking that the Democrats are pestering them into voting. But as the message goes on, it becomes clear to most non-stupid people that its a message against the Democrat, and the call only identifies its (Republican) source at the end of the message, which is a violation of the law.

A poll worker assaulted a voter. Don't know what party affiliation was sorely represented by this.

Conservative talk show host Laura Ingraham told her voters to prank call the fraud hot-line set up by the DNC. I hope she gets sued off the fucking air or thrown in jail.

There's probably a lot more shit than that that's happened. I'm sure will find out about more misdeeds after FOX officially announces that the Democrats have lost tonight and proclaim the 2006 election to be ancient history only nut-cases are still focusing on.

EDIT - I guess to some of you, I'm out of line and fringe just for posting this stuff now, today, during an election. Sorry!

Dhex, while both parties may have a wonderful history of voter fraud if you look over the entire history of the country, so far today only Republicans are engaging in this grand tradition. The only kind of shit the Democrats will be called on today is wonky-retarded nonsense thought up by pajama bloggers. You know the kind of scandals I'm talking about, some official will accidentally put a piece of paper in the wrong envelope or file something an hour late or something and then Matt Drudge will link to it and go "OMG DEMOCRATS ARE JUST AS BAD WHY ISN'T THE MEDIA REPORTING THIS CLEARLY EARTH SHATTERING STORY WHAT A BUNCH OF BIASED LIBERAL BASTARDS."

GcDiaz · Posts: 1057

showka wrote:

Here's some examples of voter fraud going on today.

The FBI is invistigating complaints that the Republicans in Virginia have been trying to misdirect or confuse people about election day.

Republicans are using robo calls to call people non-stop. The messages announce they want to give the callee information on the Democrat, misleading people into thinking that the Democrats are pestering them into voting. But as the message goes on, it becomes clear to most non-stupid people that its a message against the Democrat, and the call only identifies its (Republican) source at the end of the message, which is a violation of the law.

Conservative talk show host Laura Ingraham told her voters to prank call the fraud hot-line set up by the DNC. I hope she gets sued off the fucking air or thrown in jail.

Thank you. Quoted for the public good. Why would you assume the assaultive poll worker was trying to defraud the voter?

Drudge Report has the better version. I'd say that's pretty interesting.

showka · Posts: 994

GcDiaz wrote:

Thank you. Quoted for the public good. Why would you assume the assaultive poll worker was trying to defraud the voter?

Actually, I didn't in writing (*phew*) though I thought it. I was hoping it wouldn't be a Democrat poll worker because that would've made me feel like shit. Even better to know it wasn't over a partisan issue at all.

showka · Posts: 994

Apparently some guys, one of them packing heat, confronted Hispanic heading into a polling place.

James · Posts: 1735

LW Joestar wrote:

I regularly vote yes on that "required parental notification/consent" thing just because I actually want them to suffer. Seriously.

LW Joestar wrote:

I endorse teenage girls being beaten to death by their fathers and being forced to carry incest babies to term

LW Joestar wrote:

Because none of the WHORES would show interest in meeeeeeeeeeeeee

I hope your lungs rupture and you drown in your own blood, you worthless fucking maggot of a human being. You are a fucking cancer to other people's safety and liberty, Joestar. How fucking dare you contribute to the ruination of society when you refuse to partake in it, fatty? Eat some shit.

James · Posts: 1735

dhex wrote:

voter fraud is a tradition as long and wonderful as democracy itself.

dhex wrote:

Hey guys more like Demopublicans and Republicrats am I right? Voting is meaningless let's all admire the shine on my fucking enormous head

dhex wrote:

Sssso reflective and ssswwwooollleeennn

LW Joestar · Posts: 1358

James wrote:

LW Joestar wrote:

I regularly vote yes on that "required parental notification/consent" thing just because I actually want them to suffer. Seriously.

LW Joestar wrote:

I endorse teenage girls being beaten to death by their fathers and being forced to carry incest babies to term

LW Joestar wrote:

Because none of the WHORES would show interest in meeeeeeeeeeeeee

I hope your lungs rupture and you drown in your own blood, you worthless fucking maggot of a human being. You are a fucking cancer to other people's safety and liberty, Joestar. How fucking dare you contribute to the ruination of society when you refuse to partake in it, fatty? Eat some shit.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you really ARE exploding here. Either way: LOL, internet amirite

James · Posts: 1735

LOL REAL PEOPLE SUFFERING WHILE I DOWNLOAD ANIMU AND WONDER WHY THE SHEEPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND ME ;_;

There are not enough fists in the world to punch you clean back into your mother's cunt and then punch her back into your grandfather's balls like so much fucking waste

LW Joestar · Posts: 1358

I believe you're starting to understand how I feel about you! We're making progress!

Also, please explain how you confused my points? That would be a nice first step to this.

Ging · Posts: 841

dark steve wrote:

hey you've become less interesting than ging

congratulations ging

Thanks.

Mr. Business · Posts: 1530

LW Joestar wrote:

Winker I am just including 'myself' in 'people' ok

also guys I'd love to stay and chat but my mom's car just caught fire no that's not a joke I gotta go

Actually Joestar, I'm quite convinced by now that you're head-over-heels in love with yourself. Dead serious here too.

LW Joestar · Posts: 1358

Mr. Business wrote:

LW Joestar wrote:

Winker I am just including 'myself' in 'people' ok

also guys I'd love to stay and chat but my mom's car just caught fire no that's not a joke I gotta go

Actually Joestar, I'm quite convinced by now that you're head-over-heels in love with yourself. Dead serious here too.

Is it possible to love yourself AND hate yourself? Because I know I hate myself, so if that's not possible, then you're wrong. If it is possible, I totally accept the possibility!

softlogic · Posts: 140

WOO FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

LW Joestar · Posts: 1358

softlogic wrote:

WOO FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

Dude, are you even seeing the Axe topic? It's WAY better than this.

the vinculum gate · Posts: 2868

don't worry joestar, i just think you are a shitty troll

LW Joestar · Posts: 1358

the vinculum gate wrote:

don't worry joestar, i just think you are a shitty troll

Truly, what more can I apsire to?

108 · Posts: 2600

the vinculum gate wrote:

update: turned away from polls because of registration issues and told that my provisionary ballot 'will just be thrown out anyway'

america america land of the free

yeah, me and my friend from ohio went to wait in the US embassy in tokyo last year to try to vote for the antibush (forgot his name now) and they told us they were out of absentee ballots, which would have to be sent by snail mail anyway, which would take two to four weeks

i told the girl there to put some fucking mustard on it and get it there in five days -- i can send a contract to a freelancer in a brown envelope with a stamp on it and they get it in three days

she said that wasn't an option, and if there's the slightest chance that the ballot won't make it in time, there's no point in voting

i said, "get them on the telephone; tell them a guy (one (1) guy) from indiana and a guy (one (1) guy) from ohio are voting for notbush?"

she said, sir, we can't do that, there's no infrastructure laid out for that sort of thing

on the way out we flipped off the door because flipping off the embassy staff could be perceived as an act of terrorism and flipping off the american flag could be perceived as an act of vandalism

Mr. Business · Posts: 1530

LW Joestar wrote:

Is it possible to love yourself AND hate yourself? Because I know I hate myself, so if that's not possible, then you're wrong. If it is possible, I totally accept the possibility!

I'm pretty sure that you just don't realize it. This theory is purely a work-in-progress, of course, but I really think I'm spot on with this one.

Also, Tim, I thought that you had abandoned the politics of America to embrace the promised land of Japanananana?

LW Joestar · Posts: 1358

I am open to the possibility.

Mr. Business · Posts: 1530

See, Joestar, one of my underlying hypotheses is this: if you rate humanity and yourself so lowly, then you must have some sort of metric or standard by which to measure "worth." Subconsciously though, I think you rate yourself very highly. Then again, maybe you're just in denial about doing it consciously.

Back on the more interesting and intended topic of the thread: I've probably mentioned it before but my goddamn 2004 absentee ballot got returned because I evidently didn't pay enough stupid postage on that massive fucking absentee ballot envelope.

winkerwanker · Posts: 2414

Self hate is simply a rather dishonest form of self love. Everyone loves themselves but some just can't seem to admit it to themselves.

the vinculum gate · Posts: 2868

personally i just think he wants attention

LW Joestar · Posts: 1358

the vinculum gate wrote:

personally i just think he wants attention

Wouldn't that go against the whole being-afraid-of-people-and-attention thing?

Mr. Business, I kinda do rate people on a scale, sorta? Though in all honesty, I consider myself average at best, and a complete piece of crap at worst.

There is a person that I do compare everyone to, to judge their worth, but it is definitely not me.

Mr. Business · Posts: 1530

the vinculum gate wrote:

personally i just think he wants attention

There's something behind that one as well.

LW Joestar wrote:

Though in all honesty, I consider myself average at best, and a complete piece of crap at worst.

See, you say this, but I do not believe it.

winkerwanker · Posts: 2414

winkerwanker wrote:

Self hate is simply a rather dishonest form of self love. Everyone loves themselves but some just can't seem to admit it to themselves.

Do pay attention Mr. Business.

extralife · Posts: 3316

I can't even tell if Joestar is being serious in this thread, such is his madness.

Re: Legato. James and I have similar views on politics, so I doubt we'd yell at each other in this thread. Sorry!

Vinny! I wish I saw this shit earlier. You should have casted your provisional ballot and then took steps to ensure it was counted. At the very least, if you were told you were not registered in the district in which you voted, you should've went to the district they told you to. Election officials CANNOT stop you from voting if you show up. Especially if you have an ID. I hope you've reported this incident to the various watchdog agencies that have cropped up of late. Voting is important, and no matter how much fuckstick politicians try to stop people from doing it, there is always a way.

LW Joestar · Posts: 1358

I could sit here all night and explain how much of a worthless guy I think I am, but you're not ever going to listen, because you just can't see past the shining star that is your own opinion of yourself.

BalbanesBeoulve · Posts: 2126

Holy shit. The Indiana 8th district is Ellsworth vs Hostettler. Anybody watch Deadwood?

Adilegian · Posts: 124

extralife wrote:

They're kids. They're learning how to be responsible; how to have self control. The act of getting pregnant is already probably traumatizing them, and the abortion itself is probably going to scar them. Should they talk to their parents? Maybe. It depends on the relationship, and the maturity of both parties. I'm pretty sure those are things the government has no fucking business attempting to assume.

And that's the rub. These kinds of laws don't exist to help the kid or the parent. They exist to promote the agenda of people that aren't remotely tied to the situation at hand. People removed from reality. And you know what most of them do if they find out their daughter is pregnant? They either disown her, or force her to have an abortion (even though they hate abortions and think they shouldn't exist!) and completely destroy the relationship between them and their kid for the next decade. The people that want this law to exist are the reason it shouldn't.

WIN.

I'm always dismayed to see teens harangued as "stupid" or "idiots" for the mistakes they make. Most people use those names don't work with kids, and it shows. It's the same attitude that makes many parents distant to their kids' struggles. They've forgotten what it's like to be naïve, idealistic, and suddenly burdened with physical impulses that nothing in their experience has prepared them to handle.

"Lack of self control?" I doubt anyone was the pinnacle of Victorian restraint when he learned how to touch himself at night.

We need more Thomas Hardy i t t. Life's hard, 'specially when you're new at it.

LW Joestar wrote:

Why can't you just accept that I geniunely hate people and want them to suffer.

I suddenly realized that voting is a stab against cynicism.

Scratchmonkey wrote:

Well, if we have plenty of other evidence that Bob is developmentally disabled, and everybody else we've met who plays the piano is also developmentally disabled, wouldn't you start to wonder what's going on with that piano?

Even better, I'd like to know when it will start running in the Republican primaries. (zing?)

On topic: In South Carolina, we voted on gay marriage and some other less dramatic measures involving how the local legislative bodies operate. It was pretty keen. They had the legalese underscored by a direct statement titled "What This Means." Unfortunately, I hadn't been aware of those direct statements until I was actually IN the poll booth, and I was informed that I had about three minutes to vote, so I made choices based on what seemed more or less sensible at the time.

Still, I'm aware that laws that are useful to special interests frequently take the appearance of boring work-a-day stuff. So I'm looking into it after the fact.

artifact · Posts: 86

These threads are always cute.

Mr. Mustache · Posts: 551

I know, right?

Sawtooth · Posts: 2350

artifact whose side are you on >:|

Mr. Business · Posts: 1530

Y'know, I'm living in Texas, and I'm a young college kid, but I just don't think that I much care for Kinky Friedman's platform. I mean, the guy is talking about privatizing school sports, and I assume that means K-12 sports. That notion both makes sense to me, and also bothers the hell out of me.

On the one hand, sports teams are a money sink and a waste of time.

On the other hand, if the kids are trying to "play their best" to "get the sponsorships" then you've basically got kids who are playing to get DA BIG BUX, or some shit like that. K-12 ought to be about education, not winning sponsorships. It's one thing if it's pro-athletics, but making a spectacle and a business enterprise out of high-school football seems twisted.

Maybe my understand of this is all wrong though.

showka · Posts: 994

I'm in Texas too. I voted for Chris Bell because I actually watched the debates and was incredibly dissapointed by the avalanche of cliches that poured fourth from Kinky Friedmen's mouth. Bell also said there was a big chance for him to win, and it made me think that maybe all of the pissed off Democrats would get together and vote for him instead of Kinky or the Strayhorn, and he'd get the most votes of all the non-Perry voters.

Well, lucky me, I was right. Unfortunately 30% isn't enough to stop Perry's 39%. Fuck.

Sawtooth · Posts: 2350

Well! Looks like we're banning same-sex marriage! More importantly: same-sex civil unions!

Mr. Business · Posts: 1530

Yeah, strangely enough, I think that I like Chris Bell the best as well. But no, it's Rick "I support Intelligent Design but I won't advocate that it be taught in schools because I'm a fence-sitter" Perry. I mean jeez, c'mon man, are you a fundie or not? This isn't a halfwar proposition here!

Sawtooth wrote:

Well! Looks like we're banning same-sex marriage! More importantly: same-sex civil unions!

God bless democracy, but definitely not FAGS.

extralife · Posts: 3316

Sawtooth wrote:

Well! Looks like we're banning same-sex marriage! More importantly: same-sex civil unions!

So are we. I'm pretty deflated right now.

the vinculum gate · Posts: 2868

WE WON

108 · Posts: 2600

Mr. Business wrote:

Also, Tim, I thought that you had abandoned the politics of America to embrace the promised land of Japanananana?

I may have joked about that once or twice? Not really, though. Because I still have an American passport and because Americans are so adamant in their belief that their nation is the world that their politics become world politics, anyway.

extralife · Posts: 3316

the vinculum gate wrote:

WE WON

Nobody won shit tonight, really.

Brock · Posts: 421

showka wrote:

I'm in Texas too. I voted for Chris Bell because I actually watched the debates and was incredibly dissapointed by the avalanche of cliches that poured fourth from Kinky Friedmen's mouth. Bell also said there was a big chance for him to win, and it made me think that maybe all of the pissed off Democrats would get together and vote for him instead of Kinky or the Strayhorn, and he'd get the most votes of all the non-Perry voters.

Well, lucky me, I was right. Unfortunately 30% isn't enough to stop Perry's 39%. Fuck.

Man, I feel like slapping all these people who have been all "LOL KINKY IS GONNA GET THIS GUYS" for the past few weeks.

Of course, I forgot to register, so I guess I'm in no position to talk.

Sawtooth · Posts: 2350

you can't register at the polling place? that's what i did.

Captain EO · Posts: 371

NorCal checking in:
I voted Peace & Freedom Party every chance I got. Gotta love anything that Bob Avakian was involved in.

And fuck prop 86. I may be five kinds of communist, but a $2.10 added to cigarettes? Fuck that... It's just an attempt to keep the proletarian under the heel of the bourgeoisie. Yeah, that's it.

showka · Posts: 994

The news is saying the Democrats will control the house. That's cool, I really like Nancy Pelosi. The only non-fiction book I've ever read that was penned by someone I could tell was a pretty big conservative was about the threat posed by China in the coming years and decades. The guy hated Clinton for all the consessions he'd given China, but it seemed like he was much more ambivelent towards Pelosi. Also, I like that snicker she has in that clip they show of her on the Colbert Report. Sexy. I'd like to make love to her and make her have my abortion without telling her parents. Naughty girl.

The Democrats need three Senate seats to win, so goes the TV banter. Harold Ford looks like he will lose, which saddens me greatly. My girlfriend is from Tennessee and was really excited about Ford. The Virginia race looks close though. Probably best to go to sleep since none of the talking heads will know shit until tommorow.

km · Posts: 171

guys, it looks like it's down to 3 states for the senate... and i'm in the one that looks to lose it for the democrats.

sorry guys, i tried :(