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!= · Posts: 163

Haven't you seen already that image comparison that showed how RR7 was a graphical downgrade in some parts?

I don't want to link to it here, it's sort of embarrassing. (Embarassing that I actually read/saw this, I mean)

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

firenze wrote:

mechanori wrote:

firenze wrote:

I'll pay attention, but I'm not going to die if I have to be content finishing everything in Ridge Racer 6 instead of playing RR7 for the next couple months.

You realize that they're almost identical games, right?

I completely don't care. I love Ridge Racer. Even if most tracks are repeats, RR7 features several new tracks, better online options, an interesting new slipstream mechanic, car modification, somewhat enhanced graphics, and some new music. That's plenty for me. Also know that RR6 is my favorite game of the past year, so even an "upgrade" version of the same game would be appealing to me. Not that I really think RR7 is "almost identical" anyway - there are enough changes for me. There are people who think Street Fighter Alpha 2 and Street Fighter Alpha 3 are "almost identical" too, but no hardcore 2D fighter fan would agree.

To understand more of where I'm coming from... I adore Ridge Racers 2 on PSP, and it's a complete rehash. All of the courses are from previous RR games (even the music is), they're just playable in the "Ridge Racers" gameplay system (nitrous) and graphical style.

Seeing as how I already have RR6, maybe RR7 isn't a "must buy within a month of launch no matter the cost" system seller for me by itself. But it's damn sure a must purchase game for me when I eventually get a PS3. It takes its place among several system exclusives that I really want, and that's plenty of reason to buy a PS3 in my eyes. I'll just wait until I can walk into a retail store and buy one, and when I get that opportunity I'll take it. Oh, and VF5 or FFXIII would convince me to buy the system even if there were zero other games I wanted at all. So I'll be getting a PS3 no matter what. Lair, Motor Storm, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, Tekken 6, DMC4, Monster Kingdom - all essentially icing on the cake, and that's icing that sounds mighty tasty to me.

You poor, miserable little man.

firenze · Posts: 654

!= wrote:

Haven't you seen already that image comparison that showed how RR7 was a graphical downgrade in some parts?

Not terribly relevant to me. I want RR7 no matter what. At the very least there is a new slipstream mechanic and a handful of nice looking new courses. That's plenty for me. It's not a world of difference in graphics between RR6 and RR7 anyway, both look very nice to me. Graphics aren't the deciding factor here.

I also love RR6, despite the constant criticism it got at the 360 launch. I even heard quite a few people putting it among the worst 360 launch games. I think that's positively insane. It's my favorite video game on any system released in the past year, and I don't need reviews or image comparisons to tell me that. The combination of RR6, DOA4, and having $400 in Best Buy gift cards is what convinced me to get a 360 in the first place. I'm satisfied with my decision.

It's not a system-favoritism thing, I already own the main competition (360) and I'll eventually get a Wii once there are any system exclusive games that appeal to me. If Virtua Fighter 5, Tekken 6, and Final Fantasy XIII were only coming to 360, I'd be excited about them on that system just as much as I am about them on PS3. But they aren't, so I'm willing to buy a PS3 to play them.

Sub · Posts: 696

GUYS HE'S A LONGTIME SERIES FAN WHO ENJOYS THE GAME FOR WHAT IT IS

KILL 'IM

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

Sub wrote:

GUYS HE'S A LONGTIME SERIES FAN WHO ENJOYS THE GAME FOR WHAT IT IS

KILL 'IM

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Well look it's just Ridge Racer 7, perhaps more than any other sequel, is the most clearly schlocked-together rehash ever made. It's really a rehash of a rehash, given that Ridge Racer 6 was really just a schlocked-together rehash or Ridge Racers.

I say this as someone who really likes Ridger Racer 6, too. It's just, you know. Give me a fucking break, Namco, and all that.

skelethulu · Posts: 129

It's still pretty fun, though, and I like how it feels on a Dual Shock more than on the 360 pad. I AM ADDING FUEL TO THE FIRE(nze)

firenze · Posts: 654

Mister Toups wrote:

Well look it's just Ridge Racer 7, perhaps more than any other sequel, is the most clearly schlocked-together rehash ever made.

Even if that's true, and arguably it is, I understand the motivation. The majority of the RR fanbase is in Japan. A nation that pretty much ignored the 360. So it's new to most of the RR fanbase and it prevents them from getting too pissed at Namco for making them miss out on a RR game just because they didn't buy an expensive console that most Japanese gamers don't want.

I'd argue that it's got some enhancements too though. The slipstream mechanic in particular is major. The online play sounds significantly improved. The car modification is certainly new. I don't really have a problem with calling it Ridge Racer 6.5. Either way, I still want it. If we got this same sort of Ridge Racer 6: Champion Edition on 360, I'd certainly re-buy the enhanced game on that system too.

Oh, and Ridge Racers 2 on PSP is much more of a rehash than RR7. But it's a portable rehash packed full of R4 tracks and music, so I don't complain too much.

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

firenze wrote:

Mister Toups wrote:

Well look it's just Ridge Racer 7, perhaps more than any other sequel, is the most clearly schlocked-together rehash ever made.

Even if that's true, and arguably it is, I understand the motivation. The majority of the RR fanbase is in Japan. A nation that pretty much ignored the 360. So it's new to most of the RR fanbase and it prevents them from getting too pissed at Namco for making them miss out on a RR game just because they didn't buy an expensive console that most Japanese gamers don't want.

I'd argue that it's got some enhancements too though. The slipstream mechanic in particular is major. The online play sounds significantly improved. The car modification is certainly new. I don't really have a problem with calling it Ridge Racer 6.5. Either way, I still want it. If we got this same sort of Ridge Racer 6: Champion Edition on 360, I'd certainly re-buy the enhanced game on that system too.

Oh, and Ridge Racers 2 on PSP is much more of a rehash than RR7. But it's a portable rehash packed full of R4 tracks and music, so I don't complain too much.

See my earlier comment about being a miserable little man. :(

I mean more power to you, and all that. I just can't imagine being so slavishly devoted to a series that you buy even the most obvious watered down retreads without a second thought, and are grateful for the privelege.

Castlevania doesn't count okay

mechanori · Posts: 623

Mister Toups wrote:

I say this as someone who really likes Ridger Racer 6, too.

You do? Why? Sorry, it just seems kind of bizarre to me.

RR6 is a really horrible mess of a game. I mean, really, there are, like, four actual environments, all of which vary greatly in graphical quality and not much at all in color pallette, and you drive ugly, fake cars that take up half the screen through them over and over again until the game tells you you got something done. I have no remorse for these statements because whoever put this game together really didn't care about it at all. It's a disaster.

I mean, I like it, anyway. I like it because I can play music I like while driving abitrarily through these what-could-have-been environments.

I think I like the announcer the most though. Every once in a while, he'll say quietly, under his breath, almost by accident, "You've got some smooth moves..." You can almost feel his shame for saying something so sincere, like he had to run out of the room and think about how he'll ever be able to talk to you again.

Slonie · Posts: 422

I want to go on vacation to Ridge Island someday. But I guess I could settle for the Isle of Man.

Red_venom · Posts: 338

Im filled with love that this turned into a Ridge Racer thread. I really want RR7(And it will probably be the only tempting PS3 game to me for most of the next year) real bad but jeez I just listened to a rip of all the music in it and they definitely went with an RR5 vibe instead of R4 or using a big mix of series music like Ridge Racers games and RR6(Somewhat). Almost killed my desire for the game completely actually... ;;

I do think its the best racing series ever though and still desire it!

firenze · Posts: 654

Mister Toups wrote:

See my earlier comment about being a miserable little man. :(

Waaah. Who's really more miserable? I have fun playing games I like, regardless of whether you think they're retreads. Or you, someone who seems personally disappointed that I could possibly be having a good time. Oh well, I know what I like and I'm far less miserable having fun playing games than complaining about how much everything sucks.

I also like 2D shooters and fighters, which are arguably all retreads of templates created in the 90s. And a lot of other people seem to like [pick your same-playing FPS here]. Oh, and Ridge Racers 2 is indeed a retread but it's a convenient portable retread (play my favorite R4 tracks on the go with nicer graphics and nitro boosting - not terribly original, but fun!). I own Super Mario World on GBA and Gradius Collection on PSP too - does that make me a miserable little man too for playing such obvious rehashed software?

And I hope you don't like anything on Wii's Virtual Console...

P.S. - Hijacking threads and turning them into Ridge Racer topics is indeed awesome!

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

oops

skelethulu · Posts: 129

Welcome to the fold, ye of many dollars.

Any idea if the 20GB systems have any hope of connecting with the PSP? If Sony of America somehow lets Silent Bomber into that US PSX-on-PSP-via-PS3 release list (as they did in Japan), I'm going to need a solution to that particular connectivity issue.

Red_venom · Posts: 338

skelethulu wrote:

Welcome to the fold, ye of many dollars.

Any idea if the 20GB systems have any hope of connecting with the PSP? If Sony of America somehow lets Silent Bomber into that US PSX-on-PSP-via-PS3 release list (as they did in Japan), I'm going to need a solution to that particular connectivity issue.

Gonna assume you can just use a usb cable.

Diplocephalus · Posts: 863

Mister Toups wrote:

oops

now sell it on ebay for 10,000 us dollars

Pijaibros · Posts: 968

Mister Toups wrote:

oops

Good God, you greedy bastard!

Now take a picture of you standing with all three systems assembled around your head like a castle, Mr. Moneybags.

Who do you sleep with to splurge on toys like that as you please?

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

Diplocephalus wrote:

Mister Toups wrote:

oops

now sell it on ebay for 10,000 us dollars

that's the plan.

Mr. Mechanical · Posts: 1890

Mister Toups wrote:

Diplocephalus wrote:

Mister Toups wrote:

oops

now sell it on ebay for 10,000 us dollars

that's the plan.

Yeah right, you know you're just going to play Ridge Racer 7 instead.

Also you almost look genuinely surprised in that picture. Good show, Toups.

Jeff Garneau · Posts: 1622

toups wrote:

oops

HOW

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

Jeff Garneau wrote:

toups wrote:

oops

HOW

Okay seriously this is the story. I was driving back from work (a 2 hour commute) when I decided to stop at the Morgan City Wal Mart to see if I could get an extra wiimote. If you've never heard of Morgan City, that's because it's in the middle of fucking nowhere in the gulf coastal region of southern Louisiana. It's also dirt poor. Anyway, I'm there with the extra wii remote in hand, when I look underneath the PS2 games to see not one, but TWO 20GB PS3's. In disbelief I ask the Wal-Mart drone: "are those... you know, actually PS3's". And he says "yeah". I reflect upon the fact that I just got paid today and I decide that it's fate so I buy it.

Not sure what happened to the other one.

Anyway yeah, selling that shit on ebay. Putting the auction up tomorrow. I know I called the practice "depraved" earlier, but, well, that was because waiting in line for 3 days just to scalp people with no willpower is kind of pathetic. In this case I just lucked out randomly and happened to walk into the store and walk out with a PS3. It felt like fate, like I had no other choice but to buy the damn thing and then sell it on ebay for MASSIVE PROFIT.

So yeah.

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160055765832

winkerwanker · Posts: 2414

Nice coat toups

Diplocephalus · Posts: 863

Mister Toups wrote:

-the most powerful/heavy games console on earth. it's SO powerful and heavy that the wal-mart employee had to load it in not TWO bags but THREE
-the sony PS3 uses revolutionary CELL PROCESSOR architecture. this it is the biggest thing to hit videogames since BLAST PROCESSING. it may as well be a supercomputer. the playstation3 is so powerful that it could be use as a tactical nuclear targeting computer. just think if you don't buy this the terrorists might. are you a bad enough dude to buy this playstation3? if you don't the terrorists have already won! maybe!
-the sony PS3 is the most rare next-generation console on the face of the earth. sony was only able to ship half their expected shipment in north america because of difficulties in producing the blu-ray drive. this is because the blu-ray drive is made from crystallized tears of orphan children.

this is pretty awesome fyi

SP_86 · Posts: 31

Mister Toups wrote:

-the sony PS3 is the most rare next-generation console on the face of the earth.

Even more than the GP2X? I hear only 80k have been seen in the states since the launch last year. Or 80k shipped, i forget.

Mister Toups · Posts: 4943

SP_86 wrote:

Mister Toups wrote:

-the sony PS3 is the most rare next-generation console on the face of the earth.

Even more than the GP2X? I hear only 80k have been seen in the states since the launch last year. Or 80k shipped, i forget.

GP2X ain't exactly next-gen yo.